You Tube is a better for google than adsense, and you don't get paid!

Discussion in 'Google' started by hmansfield, Jun 16, 2007.

  1. #1
    This has been bothering me for sometime.
    Since the acquisition of You Tube, and Googles new Search Algorithms that give consideration to sites that use You Tube, isn't Google in fact allowing you to use You Tube Videos as content, to lure your traffic to You Tube, to see their ads?

    Follow me here. Google wants you to use video now,their video, and you will get a little extra love. When your visitors click on a You Tube video, they are whisked away from your site, to the You Tube site, where they can be advertised to at "Home Base"
    At least with adsense you get paid for a click, with You Tube, you don't....and it's all freely submitted content, so there are no production costs.
    It's brilliant, but sneaky.

    So now what if I modify the link on a You Tube video to go not to You Tube , but to a destination of my choice...is that a violation, or is that allowed.
    I mean they have the big Logo on all the videos so everyone knows it's You Tube.

    But I assume that is the purpose, "Use our stuff, click to see out ads"
    Any thoughts here?
     
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  2. Germ

    Germ Active Member

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    Never heard of Google wishing me display their videos.
     
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  3. hmansfield

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    Well not wishing you to, but in the new "Universal Search" there is mention of Video being considered as that little something extra in terms of information, and gets consideration for it.
     
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    INV Peon

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    Google doesnt give any SEO boosts to websites. Thats the same theory as with giving boost to websites with adsense.

    There is no proof of that at all.

    Yes, it would make sense for a company to do it, but Google isnt at that stage to be desperate for minor increase in ads clicks.

    They focus on the bigger fish and thats the advertiser whos bringing in the money, they have more then enough traffic to supply those advertisers.
     
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    qazu Well-Known Member

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    Why else would Google buy You tube? They're into making money through advertising.
     
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    So, You Tube Video being a consideration in PR ranking in the Universal Search is false?
    I see SERPS with video listings all the time now, where I didn't 2 months ago.
    Whats' the deal with that?

    And yes of course adsense is not a consideration, I actually think it should count against you, if it's the first thing on the page, but that's just me
     
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  7. Germ

    Germ Active Member

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    Video isn't indexable and google cannot see whether a clip is suitable for your query or not. You can just surround it with usual HTML and text to show what it is about, But it's all the same:the good old SEO.
    Supposing that a embed video would give a page ranking boost with Google we will come to every single page with a videoclip or even 2(3,4,5?). Even doorways. Or especially doorways.

    I think this is impossible, If I have caught the idea correctly.

    PS The reason you see more results with clips may be that you didn't pay attention to onpage video before.
     
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  8. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    Well theres a major flaw here.

    please look at this page.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gquUW1u-BN0

    tell me where you see an ad?

    Google cannot yet put advertising on user generated content pages because it cannot tell if that page is in violation of copyright. As such to get extra breathing space from the DMCA they have stopped putting ads on thoes pages.

    The only pages with ads are the serarch pages.

    Pierce
     
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    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    #9
    Google bought Youtube because watching videos is what a large percentage of the online population do so they bought the biggest video site.....

    the content on your page has nothing to do with PR....PR is dependent on links and links only

    They are now showing video in the serps because people are linking to them and they deserve to be ranked.....They are constantly improving the search engine for the benefit of actual users not webmasters....
     
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  10. hmansfield

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    Uh...the big Barrack Obamma banner at the top.
    Maybe my logic is a little flawed, that's why I asked for opinions, but I remember discussing this a few weeks ago when Universal Search was launched, and it seems the conversation is different now, Oh Well, such is the web.
     
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    ofcourse why else would google have bought youtube? makes perfect sense.
     
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  12. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    i see, an internal link for quicklinks or whats popular today, or some other sort of internal advertising. So it must be limited to the USA

    I dont think its altogether a bad thing for people able to click the video and get to the youtube page.

    For various reasons.

    1. People can read comments and comment on the video
    2. Youtube gives back links to thoes who place there videos on there sites (see links: .. at the bottom of the grey box where you can bookmark it and stuff) and yes ive gotten clicks to my site back from youtube, so another good point to place them on pages with discriptive links.

    Pierce
     
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  13. hmansfield

    hmansfield Guest

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    What? Now I do feel like an idiot. How does this back link thing work with You Tube?
    Can you explain that a little more? I use You Tube stuff all the time and I never knew this.
     
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  14. Pierce

    Pierce Active Member

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    its like a blog post, its a ping back.

    Just put the video into your site, and when a user clicks it, youtube knows and adds it to the list.

    It then lists all sources by click count. So the more traffic you drive to youtube the higher up on the back link list you are.

    See screenshot:

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    i just noticed it only lists the top 5, but even still thats a video on the front page. And I honstly have gotten clicks from these backlinks and I wouldnt even drive 1/1000th of thoes clicks heh.

    Pierce
     
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    Oh Ok. So it's already done.
    I never noticed that before, thanks for the info:)
     
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    I've never noticed those links before....
     
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    #17
    They appear since a couple months now.
     
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    Do you think that link love has any major benefits?
     
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  19. Pierce

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    it would explaine why sites that have youtube videos may appear to rank higher ;)

    the youtube video though clickable to us i dont believe has any link value to youtube. So its a one way link.

    Pierce
     
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  20. hmansfield

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    That's why I started this thread in the first place. Wouldn't it make sense since it's all one big, Resident Evil, Umbrella Corporation, Product Service, Ad Thingy, that controls all that is web search?
     
    hmansfield, Jun 17, 2007 IP