If you said you could produce good results on a site you built for a company, or anyone at all, and yet they paid you for the site, but haven't made a cent, would you be the blame? Would it still be your-end to take the fall because you couldn't deliver results? I'm sure this has happened plenty of times, but i've never gotten in this situation, and if anyone happened to, how would you deal with it?
I don't know wtf hasbehas is talking about but there is no way you could be held accountable for a companies ability or inability to make money from a website you designed. If you had no hand in the SEO or content, back end support, affiliate offers, email campaigns or any other way that is utilized to monetize a site and its traffic then you are not responsible for the company pissing away the money they gave you to design a site they had no clue what to do with after they got it.
I agree 100% allthough what he may be getting at is if someone promised good se rankings etc as part of their service then would they be held accountable? if thats the case and they didnt deliver what they promised then yes it's their fault, however if you just build a site for a company or individual and nothing else then what happens once you complete it and hand it over is their responsibility, not yours. It's also up to them how they earn their revenue after you build the site.
It all depends what you have promissed in what way.. *If you have just promissed perfectly coded / designed website and if you believe you have done it then fine.. You've done it... *If you have promissed this site to have loads of visitors, but you could not get the "right" visitors to the site.. then you must have done something wrong.. Correct it.. bring the right visitors.. *If you have created good traffic with the right visitors to the site, then perhaps what they are selling is crap.. *If you knew this already, then you should have not promissed.. *If this was a MFA etc.. site then you should have researched it well.. *If this client was somebody who knew exactly what they wanted and they wanted you to something specific.. Then it is not responsibility.. But they might still blame you.. You will see that one way or the other, you (we) are responsible in a way.. There are two kinds of salesman.. One; tells ONLY what the customer wants to hear/need.. Second; Makes a combination of truth and what the customer wants to hear/need.. I have always tried to be the second type.. it is hard, but it is the right thing to do.. If all salesman were like how SuperGuru explained, then we'd be left with tons of unhappy customers, bad reputation.. etc.. with no actual reason.. At the end of the day, there is one question my friend.. Will you be able to look into your customers eyes if you were to be face to face and say; I have done mypart of the job..??? Thats what I have said earlier.. But you are still free to think what you belive.. But believe me; being an "irresponsible" person does not help you in life.. Your title says, you have promissed, and could not deliver.. That's a fault in my book. FYI SuperGuru, it also should be in your book..
Very well said - I'm a strong beleiver in honesty how can it be so hard, especially when being dishonest can be more toruble than it's worth lol. in short: you only need to deliver what you promised, and nothing else if you don't then it's your fault
Its hard for both Buyers and Sellers. But there is another one: customers/Visitors/Traffic/ whatever we call them.We have to depend on them to make our business running. YET, there is another ONE.The BIG G. They are in control.They are rulz. SO I think no one should blame anyone. Just avoid the bad strategies. Thats all. digital
Hasbehas.... First of all, you don't know me nor what I do for a living, so saying something like "if all salesman were like..." is an ASSUMPTION on your part and it makes you look foolish. I responded to this question after you clearly stated that this guy was at fault...WITHOUT knowing what he actually promised to deliver to the company in question. I simply said I don't know what the fuck you're talking about because there are so many variables to this question, such as the points I outlined in my response. If in fact you knew me, or knew any of the people that I work with or that have worked for me, then you would know that not only do I deliver on EXACTLY what I promise, EVERY time, but I am the first to take responsibility if something does not work out as planned. The thing is...this guy really never did say what he promised vs. what he delivered so all we can do is offer a variety of opinions, which is what I did.
Never be too quick to judge someone, especially if you don't know somebody it's also bad for business Aside from the assumptions he seems to have made about you he made good points in the rest of his post imo.
The question was clear ehough.. Promised ==>> not delivered.. there is fault.. You didnt want him to take responsibility.. thats fine.. I would.. and that how I have answered his question.. I dont think I have judged superguru at first.. The way he reacted, "" wtf "" is more like it.. And again.. Is that how you respond to somebody you dont know..?? I dont care how I look.. I always try to do the right thing.. I put myself in his situation.. I'd take responsibility.. thats it.. I have made my point.. My way.. and you have.. your way.. Thats enough..
I gotta say that if you can't deliver what you agreed to or promised to then it is your problem. If you promise to build a site and you do that well that's fine. You never promised making them rank high in SEs or getting visitors. But if you didn't promise all those things and they paid you to do all those things and they don't have the amount of visitors your promised or the rankings you promised, for example, then who else is to blame? The fact is don't lie just to get a job. It will hurt you in the long run. So if you feel you can't do it - DON'T. Your reputation will be clean and you will look better to potential clients. Skinny
Since you have provide the right goods to them,and they paid you,no it is not your fault,the contract is over.
that would be a bad rep for yourself. It would affect for future works at least you will lost the old customer and they might even tell other people dont use your service.
I agree with SuperGuru. I was just making sure there wasn't any liability of being held accountable if a company's site you design didn't see a ROI. Thanks much.
Say if you did SEO work along with the site, and got them good rankings, then the owner went and bought paid links at a directory or something and got themselves slapped, the owner could then turn round and say " what you dun to mai site u promised good rankings, now ive fallen back down " Then it could not possibly be your fault, no matter how much the owner whines.
If they hired you to bring them traffic, then you'd be to blame if they're not getting visitors. Actual sales would be up to them and their sales pages. But if you were just hired to design their webpage, you have no obligation to bring them traffic. -SK