You have two choices: Do you want America to WIN or to LOSE? Because one will happen.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by chulium, Feb 20, 2007.

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Do you want the United States of America to WIN or LOSE?

  1. Win

    64.6%
  2. Lose

    35.4%
  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #221
    Let's recap. So we can confirm that when I said:

    and you used dishonesty to change what the poll was about:

    and I responded with:

    than in fact, you were trying to be dishonest? That's all I really need to know. Thank you for the confirmation.
     
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  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #222
    How do you know someone is losing it? When the person starts talking with himself. Poor Gtech, The mental pressure of everyone dumping Bush has pushed him over the edge. :D
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #223
    gworld! Welcome back!

    Now if your house boy, AGS (who happened to arrive with you just now), is the honest man I suspect he is, he'll quote your post and claim that you were abusing that naughty ol' GTech :D
     
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  4. Zerosleep

    Zerosleep Established User

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    #224
    I would say they must lose because I dont like their ATTITUDE!!
     
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  5. Brandon Sheley

    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    #225
    uuuh,, that seems a little random..lol

    and America will win.. as we always do ;)

    btw, is this north, south, central america ?? the poll is very vague

    * like, do you want the red team to win or lose * I think some ppl have to much free time to make pointless threads like this one..
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #226
    Agreed.

    Pretty sure it's North, but a very interesting observation :)
     
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  7. robert s.

    robert s. Peon

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    #227
    i don´t really get it.... is in your brain only place for black and white? this way of thinking is exactly the problem: one is either with america - or with the terrorists.
    honestly, i despise the terrorists but i also think that monkey bush is exactly in the same league. so if somebody asks me to choose between black and white - in this case i have to say :red, blue, yllow, pink, green...............
     
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  8. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #228
    Ah, but this B&W argument has already been covered in this thread, and I understand why you didn't want to read the last 12 pages. So, I'll recap: There's some issues which should be B&W (namely moral issues) - but when it comes to the war against terrorism, either the terrorists will win, or we will win. Why? Because if we don't engage the terrorists, they'll keep attacking us. We must make it impossible for them to organize. This war will probably never end until the end of the world, and if we do indeed do this, it would be victory. Thus, if you are not on one side, you are on the other, because one side will always be aggressive.

    So no. Is your brain open, though? THAT is the question. This is a B&W issue. Now realize that.
     
    chulium, Feb 24, 2007 IP
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #229
    That sure is a good reason, isn't it??
     
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  10. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #230
    What happens if you think that both sides are terrorists? ;)
    It doesn't matter if you use a car bomb or an aircraft carrier, when you use violence as a mean of achieving politics goals, it is called terrorism.

     
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  11. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #231
    Well good thing Bush isn't a terrorist ;) We aren't targeting civilians. They ARE.

    Yeah, I know: "40 more Iraqi children died today as..." - you know WHY? Because terrorists use children and citizens as shields. They'll "borrow" their houses for the night... or kidnap them for protection from gunmen and bombs. Unfortunately, we can't always know when they're using shields and when they're not....

    Also, note the definition says "ESPECIALLY" (Well, "esp.") for political reasons. But it never says always.
     
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  12. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #232
    This is just excuse, you know very well that since Bush has become the president, USA has used more and more it's military power to threaten the rest of world with violence in order to achieve it's financial and political goals which is one the main reason that after decades of stop in race to develop nuclear bombs, we will see more and more countries try to go nuclear in order to resist the threat of violence.

    Instead of looking at actions, your decision about who is a terrorist and who is not, is simply based on their choice and mean of weapons. It seems in your world if some one uses a car bomb and kills 10 people then that person is a terrorist but if you use an aircraft carriers, stealth bomber and "smart" bombs then you are a hero even if you kill 1000 civilians. :rolleyes:
     
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  13. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #233
    No excuse here. It's fact.

    And ONLY Bush has ever used our military :rolleyes:

    Well, nukes are a controversial matter and very grey. Definitely.

    What is intended by actions is what matters, so long as your actions follow your intent. This is what defines terrorists vs. the good guys (us).

    Well, not sure about 1000... it depends what the 'prize' was.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #234
    Everyone makes stories about their "intent" but I assure you for a child who loses the parents or loses both arms and legs, it makes no difference your "intent" or if it is written on the bomb, made in Iran or America. :rolleyes:

    I also assure you that in the same way that you think of yourself as the "good" guys, the other side also thinks of themselves as the "good" guys. The violence and war always must be the last resort in situation but unfortunately this administration is more interested to act as school bully than a government toward the rest of the world. The simple fact that most political allay of this government in England, Italy,.... have decided to dump Bush and even some leaders were forced to leave their political office, is a testimony to the fact that most people in the civilized world do not agree with terrorism and school bully tactics.
     
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    Ephemeral Peon

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    #235
    America ought to loose, seeing as how awful we are.
     
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  16. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #236
    Well, way to explain....
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    #237
    Whilst we are fighting mentally unstable muslims then the answer is simple WIN...

    If we don't fight back, then we will keep being targeted by these mentally unstable muslims that have one thing on their mind death to the west, no matter how much some anti-war protesters want us to stop killing these unstable muslims we must continue full steam a head be cause if we followed these anti-war people & did want they want us to do then we might as well just surrender now:rolleyes:
     
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  18. Bestmiler

    Bestmiler Peon

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    #238
    I want the US to win but I don't know if they can. There are so many terrorist that are willing to do anything. We'll find out soon.
     
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  19. bochgoch

    bochgoch Peon

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    #239
    In reality you all want America to win -- you just might not know it....
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #240
    Looks like we're up to 17 terrorist supporters, not including the team of "Dumb and Dumber" who have abstained from voting.

    Please make sure to see the poll results, so that one doesn't do business with those who wish terrorists to win.
     
    GTech, Feb 25, 2007 IP