You don't exist and nothing you believe in exists.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by 24788, Apr 7, 2010.

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    I've always wondered about this. It's not from anywhere, but I think about it at times. It seems as if this is all just a false illusion. How does one exist when existence itself had come from nothing. How does something exist forever? It almost seems as a time line goes in a circle, but where was the exact start to that time line if someone did exist forever (omnipotent power - I'll say this due to different religious views).

    All you really have is faith and what we call feelings when it comes down to the basics. Whether it be religious or scientific it's all faith or a belief of where you came from.

    What do you guys think? Can your mind even begin to grasp an idea or do you wonder about it at times?

    This is for more open minded people and try to keep your own beliefs out of it for once and if you must include something be respectful.
     
    24788, Apr 7, 2010 IP
  2. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    In the religious dogma all is based on faith indeed.
    In the scientific approach nothing is based on faith but only on evidence. The evidence point at a big bang which occurred approx. 13.5 billion years ago. Presently we don't know how things looked like before the big bang.
     
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    we exist. there are things, matter that exists and we are part of it.
     
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    Revelations-Decoder Well-Known Member

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    I pinched myself - it hurt as I did it quite hard - I ascertain from this many things exist!

    I then typed using keys on my keyboard so I am guessing my fingers the keys and my keyboard exist to.

    I will have to verify this tomorrow though as it's nearly bedtime so if it wasn't just a dream I may be ably to type on my keyboard tomorrow.

    If you never see a post by me here or elsewhere again then I guess it was all just an illusion and water was never wet the sun was never hot and the moon never controlled the liquid nor turned the Mrs into a mardy old mare at times.
     
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  5. Breeze Wood

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    - How does something exist forever?

    A Garden exists through renewal and is able to do so indefinitly....The Big Bang???? - stones are considered living within a Garden but what of the substance and being of the Bang....the absolute of renewal in a formless state, well maybe it really isn't that important..
     
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  6. prophet666

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    The whole world is a huge theatre.The cinema of life goes on forever. Every individual is an actor. The past. The future and the present are already fixed in the roll of the films.The future will be shown in the same order without any alteration, and we enjoy and suffer as time passes on without any modification. The roll of film already taken is according to the Karma done by us in the previous birth and the story is the result in this birth and it cannot be changed
     
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    This Universal wheel, this merry-go-round
    In our imagination we have found
    The sun a flame, in the Cosmic lantern bound
    We are mere ghosts, revolving, the flame surround.

    at least I'm real person and exist in the world! lol
    just kidding, strongly believe everything is real.
     
    babak44, Apr 17, 2010 IP
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    wwws Notable Member

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    Religion: They think something is there but have not seen it yet, but someone had written about it and claim that something was there and will be there again. While another religion contradicts the other saying, "Well this is more like it, your views are not right and therefore you must convert or die!"

    Science: We see it and we are studying it and making progress, will keep you in touch if we have further details.
     
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    The answer to your question is so simple - everything has been created by the God! If to accept this point of view everything becomes clear and there are no coincidences in our life.
     
    Warner, Apr 20, 2010 IP
  10. thegreek

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    I know that God exists and he is eternal and so are our spirits. :) When we die our bodies will be buried and our spirits will wait until Christ comes again. When he comes, all will be ressurrected, as he was, where flesh and spirit become perfect and inseperable. We will live in different kingdoms (glories/levels of heaven) that reflect the actions we've made in our life on earth (which is extremely short, compared to eternity). The highest kingdom makes it possible for those to have eternal increase (progression) and happiness living with our Father in Heaven. If we make it there there is no time limit to our joy (there is no time limit in the other kingdoms, but progression is limited) :(. As mere mortals on this earth we can't even fathom that joy and progression, neither the love that God has for us. I know he is real. He has a body of flesh and bone like ours, with arms that constanly reach out toward us, eager to help us if we just let him. :)
    Because of this design, we build hope and determination to do our best to seek for knowledge, lift others up, and progress as we would progress in the eternities.
    I know these things to be true without a single doubt. I hope it helps. :)
    btw, thanks everyone for your insight.
     
    thegreek, May 20, 2010 IP
  11. Breeze Wood

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    Agree with most of this post that is not Christian and plenty to build on however disagree God has any more concerns for man than any of the other creatures of the Garden.

    In fact man at present is dispelled from the afterlife as outcasts requiring attention from God that is displeasureable.
     
    Breeze Wood, May 21, 2010 IP