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You can't have guns but you can kill babies

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by r3dt@rget, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #21
    What Rebecca said, and no, you are not correct in most of what you write. For instance, r3dtarget explained with crystal clarity what he believes is a human, and when life begins, and you demonstrated a complete misunderstanding of what he said by claiming he might think a used condom contains human beings.
    SEMrush
    Perhaps you are just slow, but I suspect Rebecca has your number. You are just trowing out nonsense to provoke a reaction, or what is commonly referred to as a forum troll.


    @r3dt@rget: Rape, incest, and medical issues are obvious reasons why abortion needs to be legal. I hate to be the left winger here, but I think a woman should be able to have an abortion for any reason up to a certain point. I'm not advocating for using it as birth control, but most women don't even announce they are pregnant until 8 weeks due to the fairly high probability of miscarriage in the first few weeks.
     
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  2. r3dt@rget

    r3dt@rget Well-Known Member

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    #22
    I agree. The reason doesn't matter, just like I don't need a reason to own 30 round magazines. But that doesn't mean it should be considered mainstream or normal, and that was what I was getting at. Just like back in the day, if you had that "problem" you dealt with it however you wanted, and you didn't really want everyone knowing. It is what it is, no matter how much liberals want to water down the issue by saying life hasn't started, etc. Even though I mostly side with the left on abortion, I hate how they argue for it.

    It is sort of like smoking. Everyone knows it's bad, no one tries to argue how good it is. But it remains legal and everyone seems ok with that. If you want to smoke go for it, but the perception of smoking by people is not a really good one and is more than enough of a reason to scare people away from it. The smoking supporters don't try to avoid the fact that it is bad for your health. The majority of pro-choice people I listen to seem to be insulting the babies because they talk as if it doesn't exist, or doesn't deserve to live. Instead of giving people reasons why that life isn't more important than the mother's choice, talk about personal liberties and government involvement.
     
    r3dt@rget, May 12, 2013 IP
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    grpaul Well-Known Member

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  4. Bushranger

    Bushranger Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You
     
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  5. thesickearth

    thesickearth Active Member

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    #25

    The Holy Bible is hardly nonsense, son. Neither are historical facts.
     
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    thesickearth Active Member

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    #26

    Even non-whoring escorts ( assuming that they do exist ) have to do more than walk around in someone's house for 20 minutes. That was a robbery plain and simple and getting killed is ( supposed to be ) a calculated risk in business like this, just like you take your chances while driving or going to the movie theater. The bitch took the money, did not deliver and did not return his $150. Eat a dick or eat a bullet bitch, the choice is simple in this case.
     
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  7. Bushranger

    Bushranger Well-Known Member

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    #27
    The fact you can legally shoot and kill somebody for stealing $150 off you is pretty sad imho. Overkill really. Life's obviously pretty cheap there.

    I'd change my opinion if it was an armed holdup.
     
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  8. thesickearth

    thesickearth Active Member

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    #28
    That is legal only in the dark time of the day. In any case what the guy was supposed to do? Jump on her? Keep her prisoner in his house? Call the police? So he did, after shooting her in the neck.
     
    thesickearth, Jun 13, 2013 IP
  9. r3dt@rget

    r3dt@rget Well-Known Member

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    #29
    He didn't have to do anything. His life was not in danger. He lost $150. But the guilt from murdering someone is not worth $150. It's pretty clear all parties involved were scumbags.
     
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  10. thesickearth

    thesickearth Active Member

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    #30
    It wasn't a murder. Murder is an illegal killing. This killing was legal. As for the guilt, let the guy decide whetehr it was worth it, ok ?

    I don't have enough info to figure whether the guy was a scumbag. It looks like he cleaned the street for us, that's all. When you see a guy picking up a piece of trash from the street and putting it into the garbage can, do you call him a scumbag? No. But he might as well be, we just don't have the info.
     
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    r3dt@rget Well-Known Member

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    #31
    http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/...n-abortions-after-20-weeks-of-pregnancy?lite=

    For the record I think it's pretty hilarious that Democrats call a vote on an abortion bill a waste of time and energy, yet Democrats spent 4 months of this year on gun laws... Liberal woman will defend their right to abortions yet those same liberal woman want assault rifles banned. As I stated before abortions should be legal up to a certain point. There has to be a line drawn between reversing a mistake and murder. 5 months seems to be a pretty reasonable time to get an abortion. Anything past that and you have what Gosnell did where he cut out live babies and murdered them. If he can be convicted of murder for those abortions, why is this bill so "extreme" to liberals?
     
    r3dt@rget, Jun 18, 2013 IP
  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    ^ I think you kinda answered your own question... ;)
     
    Mia, Jun 19, 2013 IP
  13. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Aren't liberals regulating free speech as well?

    You've just described Roe v. Wade, a well-written Supreme Court decision, based on British law, that says that abortion is legal only up to the time the fetus demonstrates independent movement (Quickening:the first recognizable movement of the fetus within the mother's womb). Of course, most abortion proponents haven't read Roe.

    Abortion is a multi-billion dollar industry. If you restrict who can have an abortion you restrict profits. The Abortion industry is huge, and the actual profits are a closely guarded secret. It's estimated to be over $50 Billion yearly. It would be a lot cheaper for the government to just provide free birth control

    It's interesting that less and less doctors graduating medical school want to perform abortions. It's cutting into the profits.

    I haven't read or heard Rush Limbaugh in years, but he once remarked "Liberalism is a religion and abortion is their sacrament".

    Your harmless ignorance is always entertaining. So is your total lack of references.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #34

    It makes me wonder if the Christian crazies even think before posting such nonsense. The average cost of an abortion is less than $500. If the profit margin is 50% then it means that profit is less than $250. Now let's divide $50 billion by $250.

    50,000,000,000 / 250= 200,000,000. Does any sane person can think that there is 200 million abortions per year in the USA? :rolleyes:
     
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    He probably considers condoms and birth control pills to be abortions too. In any case, doctors in USA are free to charge you whatever they want, and they pretty much never tell beforehand what they are gonna charge you with , so any doctor can send you a 50-billion dollar bill.
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #36
    ^ putting a dollar value on taking a human life at any price is more "crazy" than any "Christian" ideal.
     
    Mia, Jun 24, 2013 IP
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    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #37
    gworld, it's always entertains me how you can take any subject and look at it with such ignorant economics - seriously, are you capable of doing any independent research on your own instead of just posting foolishness?

    No, preventative birth control pills and condoms are not part of the equation. But gworld, are you capable of any advanced thinking in this regard? Or must I publish cites that embarrass you yet again?

    Here's a hint - consider the entire economic infrastructure of the abortion industry. What does that involve? Think about drugs, R&D, training, etc.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I think Julian is one of those people that just likes to hear the sound of his own voice. In this case, likes to see his own written word. ;)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    As a scientist who is a car salesman that works in suicide hotline while he is off from running his business empire, I am sure you are capable of very advanced thinking and the nonsense that you post makes a perfect sense to you. :rolleyes::)
     
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    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    I still don't see any cites from you as to the dollar size of the abortion industry. Care to clarify?
     
    Corwin, Jun 25, 2013 IP