Wow got my first red for this thread. I ask the puxxy who decided to give me red do you have an opinion or debate to disprove anything I have stated? Until then, I'll take the red with a grain of salt and hope at least one person wakes up to the reality. Debate what I post, don't hide in the closet.
A few and far between. I have previously known many growers when I was younger, these guys were huge pot heads. But 60 joints worth?!? Even 20 is cutting it pretty high, how many bowls worth are in a joint afterall? More than 1 in a decent sized joint I guarantee. I wont argue that there may be a few who might smoke 60 joints a day even though I highly doubt it, but there are also those who have a shot of Jack in the morning. 20 joints a day though for a normal user is way, way off base. Most regular users from what I remember even when I was in highschool maybe smoked a bowl on average an hour after school split between 2-4 guys. Even older people I know who smoke still to this day from what I know from talking to them maybe smoke 8 bowls a day or so, nowhere near the 20 joints a day for a standard user. I might be slightly off afterall it's been awhile since I've done it, but don't believe a standard user is smoking 20 joints a day at least until the day I buy the bridge you are selling. edit- the you is stated as to who believes the 20 joints a day figure for a normal user, not anyone in particular.
I think I was a little unclear. I didn't mean that I agree this is the average user, I think that number is really inflated as well. You are going to have to be pretty well off to afford that habit. Those who I've met who smoke this much are going to school on their rich parents money. The most frequent users that I still know smoke maybe 4-5 times a week. But the heavy users are out there, but I agree I do not think 20 is anywhere close to the norm.
That is so true, and one thing I have always hated was when people overweight would criticise me for smoking and that has happened a lot. Food is not being outlawed ... and it kills ... some
Figured you didn't Just had to go on and ramble with my point, afterall I will admit currently I am on a legal drug called korbel or commonly referred to as brandy aka alcohol. LOL, ban Mcdonalds, those bigmacs will kill!
Right, I don't think pot is good for you, and if anyone asked me for advice, I would say: don't do it. But making it illegal is not good IMO. But then again, I've voted I dont really know ...
Great point, ban those double cheeseburgers and I guarantee personal freedoms will get more merit including pot smoking if someone chooses to do so. I actually brought this point up in a way http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=352042&postcount=29
The only proven fact that is 100% proven from pot use being bad for you is damage to the lungs from smoking, that again is if you choose to smoke. There are of course the short term damages as well, consentration issues, munchies, cotton mouth, and the claim of psychosis which many articles I have read have widely disproven. Willing to learn here though, but even if it's proven to be harmful in other areas there are still many items that are far worse for you than pot including commonly used aspirine, tobacco, alcohol and most prescription drugs on the market.
Yup, sure would... But I want my double cheeseburgers too! I voted for 100% legal, but honestly I am not too worried about it... Mostly because neither are the cops around here
but if you smoke it for many years, doesn't it become more of a long term issue causing some permanent loss of brain cells?
I myself am not worried about it since I do not do it anymore as I have been in trouble once for it, however this does not stop me from taking on the debate.
I believe its more chronic users will have problems down the road, just as with any substance... Although I've never read anything conclusive. Ah but being in trouble for it gives you more reason to debate... Assuming it is legal trouble.
Yes brain cell loss is a reason I have heard before, I'm sure you do lose some but afterall you only use what percent of your brain in the first place? Not to mention brain cell loss is a direct result of many other items that are completely legal. I would honestly have to research it a bit better, but brain cell loss I trully believe to be discredited even if it happens simply because so many other legal substances do it as well. Also as previously stated I am currently under the severe effects of a legal drug 'alcohol' so if I'm wrong I'm willing to admit it, the statements I am posting may be incorrect. If incorrect i'll gladly admit it and do my best to make up for it. As far as the brain cell debate goes though I submit the following which took me not even a minute through google.
Not a stoner but didn't red you. Don't see a point in it as you brought up a good point, just because someone doesn't agree with it is no merit to red post. Instead wouldn't it be more productive to debate the issue, unless of course they fear something? At least that's my 2 cents.
Totally agree. I've asked a legitimate question. I've seen a lot of studies regarding permanent loss of memory due to pot smoking. I'm not a medical pro, but there seems to be a lot supporting that theory. Once again, I don't agree with pot being singled out as something "more evil" than other things, but still ... that wouldn't make any side effect caused by pot any better
Yes and so have I, however most of these studies were government funded by groups they more than likely knew would come up with conclusions to support their theories. Independant studies and even government studies however that I have read in the past completely disprove this fact to be more placed into the urban legend category.
Of course, herb should be 100% legal. It's the only so-called drug that hasn't killed one person. Not even our lying government will attempt to perpetrate the fraud of marijuana deaths. Bill Clinton smoked pot and he became president. George W Bush did lots of cocaine and he became president. Well, maybe Bush isn't such a good example. But at least pot smokers haven't lied to send thousands of people to their deaths. Maybe cocaine is the bad drug. Then again, look at Dan Quayle. The two worst drugs of all are legal. Alcohol and tobacco. Both kill plenty of people every year. Both contribute heavily to both parties. Make cigarettes illegal and see what happens.