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Yemeni girl, 8, gets divorce after forced marriage

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by browntwn, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. Lexiseek

    Lexiseek Banned

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    #41
    So sue him for libel then.
     
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  2. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #42
    Still waiting
     
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  3. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #43
    And how did you get your first hand knowledge of what happened? What an absurd statement.
     
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  4. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #44
    How did Will? I'm still waiting for a source.
     
    sweetsara, Apr 23, 2008 IP
  5. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #45
    While you are waiting do you care to explain how you know it for a fact? (you made that claim)

    Or is that just an outright lie? We all read various sources about historical times. Why can you declare that you know it as a fact and yet challenge Will?
     
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  6. sweetsara

    sweetsara Peon

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    #46
    Because if someone says something so rediculous that it is just meant for an insult and not for argument or fact i know it is not true, and also you have pretty much confirmed it is not true by not providing a source, thank you
     
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  7. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #47
    That is some pretty serious logic.
     
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  8. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #48
    Aishah and Mo consummated the marriage (had sex) when she was about 9 yrs old. I cannot understand how a Muslim could be unaware of this, since it is in Islamic religious text. Here is a source put out by Imad, bold emphasis mine:
     
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  9. sweetsara

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    #49
    Why are people trying to apply modern social values to 1500 years ago?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #50
    Well on planet Earth to "consummate the marriage" means specifically to have sex.
     
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    sweetsara Peon

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    #51
    I know, i mis read but hadiths can be dodgy, so i would find out if it was a valid one first and not one of the many stupid ones made up by anti islam freaks
     
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  12. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #52
    Non-Muslims are writing weak Islamic hadiths?
     
    Rebecca, Apr 23, 2008 IP
  13. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #53

    So which excuse are you pushing?

    1. He didn't have sex with her?
    2. Consummating a marriage does not mean sex?
    3. The hadiths were written by infidels?
    4. He did have sex, but it was 1500 years ago so different morals apply?
     
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  14. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #54
    I vote for #4. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson owned slaves. Yet we allow their images to grace our currency and they are considered heroes of the Republic.

    For hundreds of years, women in the west were not allowed to own property or vote. They were second class citizens. Even in America.

    It doesn't mean it isn't wrong or immoral, but to ignore that cultural standards are constantly evolving is silly.
     
    guerilla, Apr 23, 2008 IP
  15. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #55
    George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were not considered to be Prophet's from G-d. We may hold alleged Prophets representing G-d to a higher standard.
     
    Rebecca, Apr 23, 2008 IP
  16. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #56
    Do you believe he was a prophet from God?

    And really, what difference does that make? Has God issued a commandment on the age of marriage or sexual relations? I'd think it would be logical to measure his viability as a prophet against the word of God (as he preaches it), not against our moral standards, circa 2008.

    I mean, how logical would it be to judge Mohammad's authenticity by Christian standards? Or Jewish standards? Or Buddhist standards?

    You know what I'm saying?
     
    guerilla, Apr 23, 2008 IP
  17. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #57
    No. You know that I'm agnostic. The only reason I was drawn into this thread, is that a Muslim is stating Mo consummating with a 9 yr. old is a made up lie. When in fact, it is written right in their religious text. The temptation to say something was just too great for me.:)
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #58
    I know. I just find it weird that people are using retro-active values to make judgments. Certainly today, this is unacceptable in the West. But if Bedouins are still doing it, and have been for more than 15 centuries, then I'm not quite sure how to judge that.

    At one time, we thought that blacks should not be allowed to be schooled with whites. In fact, that was only 60 years ago. Who knows what we will consider acceptable/unacceptable actions today, in another 60 or 1500 years?
     
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  19. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #59
    Previous discussion on the subject with reputable source.
     
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  20. Will.Spencer

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    #60
    Now that you've seen the proof, from your own Islamic texts, where is the apology you owe me?

    I can't believe how many people have come forward to defend the practice using pre-pubescent girls for sexual gratification.

    My advice to anyone who thinks that's OK: Shoot yourself in the head right now, before you ruin some little girls life.
     
    Will.Spencer, Apr 23, 2008 IP