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Yahoo! is Penalizing Co-Op Sites [Proof]

Discussion in 'Yahoo' started by rex_b, Nov 29, 2005.

  1. rex_b

    rex_b Peon

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    #81
    What is your point. I argue A you argue B and nobody knows for sure what the C is....

    And using the word superstitious (showing ignorance or the laws of nature and faith in magic or chance) is kinda dumb don't you think. It's more like my assumption on the facts in hand.
    SEMrush
     
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  2. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #82
    Again, betraying your failure to understand the basis of logical reasoning... :rolleyes:

    1. you see a change in SE rankings and out of all possible causes for this you pick one out of thin air and conclude that that one factor is the culprit

    2. you completely fail to rule out the contribution of all the other factors

    3. you completely ignore the fact that the identified factor is also present for a large number of sites that did not drop in the rankings

    4. you make no attempt to account for the fact that those other sites did not drop in rankings other than to suggest that Yahoo noticed your site but magically did not notice the others

    That is the definition of superstitious thinking and the antithesis of logical reasoning. And THAT is the problem with your so-called "proof", which of course is nothing of the kind.
     
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  3. rex_b

    rex_b Peon

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    #83
    1. I saw no change, the site has never ranked well if at all in yahoo, and I have had Coop since day 1.

    2. I ruled out the other factors that could be possible because none of those factors could be the reason because I don't do any of those things.

    3. I already answered this, maybe they have yet to be caught? I don't know how yahoo tracks billions of sites, do you?

    4. read above


    Wow your logic is great, you have a book I can read?
     
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  4. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #84
    You can read? :eek:

    You certainly haven't demonstrated that here... :rolleyes:
     
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  5. rex_b

    rex_b Peon

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    #85
    Wow canucks can post!!

    You want a cookie?
     
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  6. rex_b

    rex_b Peon

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    #86
    Getting back to the topic here *cough * cough

    Anyone care to give their own interpretation of this:

    - Massive domain interlinking- Use of affiliate programs without the addition of substantial unique content
    - Use of reciprocal link programs (aka "link farms")
     
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  7. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #87
    OK. So it didn't drop. It never ranked. After 9 pages, I'd forgotten who said what.

    The problem is that makes your "logic" even less valid. You claim to have ruled out all other factors because you got a form letter from Yahoo listing common black hat tricks that you claim you don't use.

    This reminds me of the "logic" of webmasters who claim that Google is broken because their sorry sites don't make it to the top 10.

    define: proof

     
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  8. rex_b

    rex_b Peon

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    #88
    The truth will come out minstrel. Always had coop, never ranked in yahoo.

    Coop is now gone, and we shall see I get any rankings.

    The results will be proof enough, but then you will probably still bitch and whine as usual.
     
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  9. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #89
    The Coop is neither of those critters.
     
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    rex_b Peon

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    #90
    Which is YOUR interpretation right? Subjective ehh???
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #91
    You're just not understanding this, are you rex?

    Even if you now see an increase in your rankings, that STILL will not "prove" that it was Coop ads that prevented this from happening previously.
     
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  12. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #92
    No.

    1. how does the coop meet the criteria in this description: "Massive domain interlinking- Use of affiliate programs without the addition of substantial unique content"?

    2. how does the coop meet the criteria in this description: "Use of reciprocal link programs (aka "link farms")"?
     
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  13. rex_b

    rex_b Peon

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    #93
    I understand your point of view here, but it doesn't work.

    For example nobody can "prove" God exists yet 90% of the world believes in a God and most have their own "proof" that satisfies them.

    NOTHING WILL EVER SATISFY YOU.
     
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    rex_b Peon

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    #94
    *blows french horn*

    Here Ye, Here Ye,

    The all mighty all knowing minstrel knows all.
     
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    jazzylee77 Peon

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    #95
    another case of invincible ignorance...
     
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    Seiya Peon

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    #96
    "- Massive domain interlinking- Use of affiliate programs without the addition of substantial unique content"

    without the substantial unique content....

    so as long as your site has unique content your ok :)

    also im not saying the coop is massive domain interlinking, im just proving you that even if it was its wrong
     
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    Jade456 Peon

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    #97
    I think the thing we are forgetting here is that Yahoo dropped the site. In my experience, Yahoo will drop a site FOR NO REASON. Sometimes they will admit it and re-include, sometimes not (usually) IHMO.

    Just my two cents.
     
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    rex_b Peon

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    #98
    I wrote:

    From Yahoo:

     
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    Design Agent Peon

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    #99
    I thought everyone's primary focus was google right now ;)

    Also, I hope thats not a direct quote from Yahoo. (it has typos)
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #100
    :confused:

    How does that help your claim that your poor showing in Yahoo was due to Coop ads?
     
    minstrel, Dec 3, 2005 IP