Yahoo Agreement

Discussion in 'Publisher Network' started by jda, Oct 28, 2005.

  1. #1
    YPN sign up agreement says
    you agree not to:
    display all or part of the Ad Unit to any user located outside the US

    - How do you guarantee the ad won't be seen outside the US?
     
    jda, Oct 28, 2005 IP
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  2. exam

    exam Peon

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    Even if you're using geotargetting, it's not 100% reliable. That sounds pretty strict.
     
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  3. joeychgo

    joeychgo Notable Member

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    Nice find - interesting
     
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    dzcap Well-Known Member

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    WTF..I just wasted 70 bucks? is this true?
     
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    Umm what have you been smoking?
     
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    dzcap Well-Known Member

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    The smart pricing on adsense was killing my income, $70 is well spent but I can't use it if this agreement thing is true.
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    As long as your site is a US based site (no out of US address) and is in English - you won't have any problem. They know you can't prevent someone from accessing your site. They also don't count clicks from certain locations, like China or India.
     
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    dzcap Well-Known Member

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    I am devoting 1/6 of my ad inventory to YPN, hope it pays off good. If they would make it net 30 instead, it would be a huge plus to the program.
     
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    The smart pricing on adsense was killing my income, $70 is well spent but I can't use it if this agreement thing is true.

    :")
     
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  10. jda

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    It's definetly in the terms and conditions, but my guess is that it's just in there to protect Yahoo in case someone is using YPN on a site not targeted toward the US. I would guess that if you are located in the US and US focused you are fine.
     
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    How Yahoo could include that clause in the agreement?

    I am a non-US net user, and I've seen many sites with YPN ads, does this means that Yahoo can stop their payments and even sue them?

     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Yahoo could terminate an account and keep any payments if a publisher violates their agreement. They aren't going to sue you, unless imo, you are talking about a huge amount of money that was paid out and then it would be only to recover funds that were distributed. If you are a US based operation and cater to US business, then you don't have anything to worry about. There are obviously people who live outside the US who are going to try and get around the yahoo terms which state it is only for US based companies at this time. This is a legal clause that gives them power to deal with problem accounts which aren't complying with their agreement.

    Someone from Yahoo called me last week and I asked them when YPN was going to come out of beta, and they said "soon" but probably not until sometime after the first of the year. He also made reference to certain "invalid/fraud click problems" (in general) and specifically mentioned India and China.

    My son is a US Marine stationed overseas and called last week and mentioned that one of my sites were displaying blocks of text that said invalid or not authorized (I wasn't home so I don't know the exact details). This particluar site is running YPN, and the only dynamic content is the ads, so perhaps Yahoo is filtering based on IP's, or maybe they were just having problems. I have never seen a display problem, but I am US based.

    If a publisher is US based and markets to the US, then I don't think there is anything to worry about. At worst, you may not get paid for certain clicks that come from outside the US. Most of the YPN ads on my sites are for US businesses that wouldn't likely get any business from a foreign click and probably don't want to be paying for a click that isn't going to generate any business for them. As Yahoo expands their program, I'm sure they will be able to expand their program. Right now they have a lot of areas where they simply don't have relevant ads for the US.
     
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    www.AmCy.org https://domains.fedprimerate.com/

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    Much better to invalidate ALL clicks from regions of the world that have a history of click fraud problems than to run around terminating publisher accounts. If a webmaster is given 2 choices:

    choice A: all clicks from IP ranges X through Y and Z through BAR will not pay you a red cent, but all other IP's are OK.

    or

    choice B: you'll get credit for certain clicks from IP addresses that we know are problem spots, but you may have your account disabled for generating too many invalid clicks.

    Which do you think the typical webmaster will choose?

    AmCy
     
    www.AmCy.org, Nov 1, 2005 IP