wtf was he thinking??

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by MrX, Feb 3, 2007.

  1. MWilson

    MWilson Peon

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    #21
    Hey,
    Personally I don't understand what the problem is. He isn't offering a service for clicking a link as the TOS states. Correct me if i'm wrong.
    Mike
    PS. I'm a little jeleous! That dude gets a trillion or something hits a week :)
     
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  2. hanime

    hanime Peon

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    #22
    I'm sorry Jack, your a good guy/commentor and all, but I have to disagree. A crime ???? Really Jack is what this guy did a crime ??? Please define your word "crime" and subsequently equate it with a crime that has the porportional penalties and consequences because I just can't think of one. Equate this action with a crime that does not effect anyone but themselves, and then would get someone like me or another not to report it. Murder? No, that can't possibly equal a guy cheating google adsense and I would definitly report that. Bank Roberry? Child Molestation? DUI? No,No, No! The only thing I can think of that would remotely be equal is jaywalking in front of a policeman. Person A is mad at Person B for crossing the street while no obeying the traffic light, and then steers at the policeman to do something. And if Person A is really jealous of Person B for crossing the street first, they will then report him to the police.

    After reading your comment about the CFC dropping. The problem with thinking this way, is that you are misunderstanding what Adsense is. You are intrepting it to be a community based revenue system, which is false. When you sign the contract Google, you are entering into a partnership between you, Google, and Adsense and that essentially is the community involved. However, your belief is that this man's actions hurts you because you are part of the Google Adsense Community. This forum is a community, but not the Adsense Community that you belive it is. Its a "Discussion of Adsense" community and so although there is a possibility of the CFC dropping, as there are many other possibilities of what will happen, this man does not directly effect you JackBurton 2006.

    To wm007, I do have Spiderman on my PC. And the cel shading as a distinct quality to the game. But since graduating, I don't get much time to play it after my long days at work.:D

    ***Forgive me for the typos I was in a rush.
     
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  3. wm007

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    #23
    Let me repeat your words:

    In case you didn't understand Jack's reply, it pretty much translates to:

    "Grow up and learn to think for once in a while before you open your mouth".
     
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  4. prilep

    prilep Well-Known Member

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    #24
    When i first signed up with adsense i used to do all kinds of stuff. Telling people to click on ads and what not. I did that because i didnt know i cant do it never read the TOS. After joining DP forums i learned alot. Thanks DP!

    - Prilep :)
     
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  5. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    #25
    Ha! I don't know what's funnier, that you made that last post using words like "nark" and "your jealous", or that you are now attempting to undo your silly comments by presenting this intellectually dishonest argument with a straight face. It was obvious to anyone with an IQ over 50 that my use of the word "crime" was not to equate the violation of Adsense's terms by the person in question with an actual crime as defined by the law, but was in fact an analogy to someone (you) spotting something you know to be wrong (the guy asking for clicks), but ignoring it anyway because you perceive it not to have any effect on you. And yet, even though you clearly know what I meant, you pounce on the word "crime" as if to convince yourself that I actually meant that I equate the Adsense violator's breach of the Adsense contract to be an actual illegal action i.e. a "crime". I find it amusing that you kept going on and on about my use of the word "crime", but then I expect nothing less. You know full well there is no argument to be made in your favor, but instead of accepting it, you continue to present a faux argument as if it had merit, perhaps going under the assumption that if you say enough, type enough, you might actually convince yourself and all others reading that you have an argument to present. How disingenous of you.

    The rest of your post is clearly a petty attempt at going on the offensive, to "expose" my lack of intelligence or understanding. Oooh, clearly I have no understand of what "community" means, nor do understand how this here thing called Adsense works. Hyuk, hyuk, me no understando, can you explain to me how Adsense give money to poor Jack? Hyuk hyuk. Me wish me smartest! Know community meaning!

    To conclude: You made a stupid comment that you can not take back, exposing yourself to be less than intelligent, and I called you on it. But instead of leaving it alone, or accepting your spanking, you insist on pursuing this matter. Silly boy. Don't further compound your mistake with more posts in a futile attempt to convince yourself, or anyone reading that you are not the hopeless noob that you have presented yourself as with your "nark" post. You. Are. Not. That. Good.
     
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  6. Reprobate

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    #26
    Jealous?

    I'm not jealous of someone who is deliberately trying to steal Adwords Advertisers money.

    If it's theft, it's theft.

    That would be bringing undue attention to the ads.
     
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  7. wm007

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    #27
    That's what I mean with thinking, that's why I recommended that kid to think, you know... using your brain, that big mass inside your skull. :D
    I know...it can be hard sometimes when mommy and daddy did that for you instead all these years, but here's the news headline: you now have to do it on your own, it's part of growing up.

    For Pete's sake, do you really need a TOS to understand that asking people to click on your ads is a violation, knowing that the money that you make on these ads have to come from somewhere....duh. Also the thought that running a macro on your PC to click on these ads can make you a millionare (?) didn't turn on the light inside your head? That's sad... :D
     
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  8. wm007

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    #28
    Jack, stop wasting your time on that teenager that sleeps underneath an Anime bed sheet, he also clearly stated in one of his previous posts:

    and he asked this previously:

    Go figure... maybe he should read my previous post. :rolleyes:
     
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  9. hanime

    hanime Peon

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    #29
    First I'll admit I am a novice at Adsense, but if I disagree with something then I am going to speak up about it. First to Jack, you cal my first comments childish, and if one wants to look at it in such a way, I can not control that. I thought they were direct and that readers would generally understand my point of view. Which it shows that you did because you provided an adequate response.

    However if in that response you call or give the intention that someone is childish or stupid, then you can not be uspet when someone proves to you that they are smart. And remember, you disagreed with this from the beginning and no matter what response someone would have given, you would have essentially called anyone childish. Sir you committed a logical fallacy, specifically ad hominem (i.e. when you call someone names without addressing the argument). And you continued this in your response without ever addressing my argument. Also you mention that I tried to expose your lack of intelligence, which can be further from the truth as I tried to expose the flaws in your argument.

    As for wm007, you committed the act of presenting a red herring (i.e. changing the topic to try to discredit my argument). I'll admit that I didn't know that much just a week or two ago, but I've studied Adsense over that time and have come very familiar with it. I've even read the TOS. So you might sight past posts and even call people names, but your only removing yourself from the argument at hand.

    **Please excuse the typos
     
    hanime, Feb 4, 2007 IP
  10. wm007

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    #30
    I'm sorry, but you asked for it after calling someone like Jack jealous. If you would use some common sense, then you would know that any person like Jack with his knowledge of Adsense knows perfectly well what NOT to do that can violate the Google TOS. Do you really think someone with 3,000+ posts has been picking his nose all that time?
    Now you come here with an incredible 2 weeks knowledge of Adsense and you call Jack jealous? Geez, from which planet are you?

    Let me ask you this, in case you still don’t understand it;

    What would you do;

    - Run adsense according to TOS and make a descent income
    - Run adsense and violate TOS, make more than a descent income, but risking to lose your complete income (goes faster than you think, people love reporting others who are in violation)

    Now grab your skippyball and jump around the block to think about it.

    I have nothing more to add, because to be honest… I don’t think you even make a slightest attempt to understand us.
     
    wm007, Feb 4, 2007 IP
  11. hanime

    hanime Peon

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    #31
    See thats the problem, its not about what you or I would do, its about what he did and what we do as a response. And I disagreed with what people would do as a response, because yes it is "narking" the guy out, which ever terminology you use or which ever way you look at it. And the jealousy does stand from exactly what you said "make more than a descent income" then people who run "Run adsense according to TOS and make a descent income." Now did I specificaly say Jack was jealous. No. If he took it that way then that is up to him. I specificaly said people who reported this guy or would report him are the jealous ones, and if Jack was on of those guys then so be it. See overall you missed the argument again, you are instead of arguing my points you are redirecting the argument to somethng that doesn't mater. TOS doesn't say anything about reporting someone nor does it say that you are responsible for someone else's misdeeds.

    Look, Jack maybe a stand up guy which I think he is. And he has a tremendous amount of postings which would make him seem like a credible source which he has helped me out on past threads. But I and others hold the right to disagree with him when we see fit. Its people like wm007 who ruin the system by just agreeing the masses with misguided pretenses and name calling.

    **Sorry for the typos, but I'm in a rush to watch the big game....go bears
     
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  12. Reprobate

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    #32
    hanime, did you read my post #26?

    It's all you need to know.

    You have the right to disagree with whomever you choose. But you are justifying someone breaking of the ToS (which is theft) as "If it works it works"

    And your assumption of jealousy ("don't be the guy to nark him out because your jealous") is incorrect.
     
    Reprobate, Feb 4, 2007 IP