WTF is going on with the COOP

My weight has been all over the place lately - Ok, Google is a little bipolar and in need of prozac. Nothing new there.

When I went to validate/calculate weight now for one site, it dropped to -0- I clicked validate again, and it went to 2400, clicked it again it went to 1800. Clicked it again, 700. Again, 2600. I quit while I was ahead.

I tried it on another site, same thing with different numbers.

WTF???




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That's pretty typical for me (especially with the flux in all the datacenters). I can get anywhere from 3,000 to 32,000 with a validation. It's due to the fact that some datacenters have me as having 13,000 pages while others have me as having 100,000+ pages. It also has to do with the fact that the old PR keeps showing up on certain datacenters as well (on and off).

 

same here: flux in PR and pages. I don't think it is a coop problem ~ just google giving back different results for each validation

 

Google's pretty fucked up right now in regards to site search results. I haven't looked directly at any api calls in regards to the site search, but I've noticed on numerous datacenters the difference in pages.

This is definitely a bad time of the year for Google to be so volitile.

 

We had a similar problem.... we had one site with 12K then dropped to 700 then to 1550 ....... it bugs.

 

yeah - but im talking about revalidation minutes apart - not over days

 

That's what my post was referring too. It still applies rather it be minutes or days in this case.

 

I have a PR5 site, according to the API tool in the DP Backlink Tracker It is a PR5 and has 96,100 pages.... everything has been the same for about three months yet the weight has gone from 36k to 500 to 0.

I have tried revalidating manually off an aon for a few days but it won't move from 0. This is bloody frustrating.

 

F#%@ Another of my sites that had 26k weight has gone down to 2070...again nothing looks like it has changed.......aaarrgghhh

 

I'm in the same boat Michael. My weight is showing as 0 and won't change from there even though all the pages I'm showing coop links on are working fine and they are all showing pagerank.

Did you ever get that problem fixed by the way?

 

Have you guys checked using the api?

I have a script online that you can use to check it if you like.

 

I actually have a feeling that my domain www.weirfire.co.uk has been blacklisted or sandboxed or whatever the term is for something.

When I type in weirfire into Google it isn't number 1 any more as www.weirfire.co.uk but weirfire.co.uk is about 24th and is a PR2 not PR5.

And sure.... whats the script?

 

My point is - why does it change minute to minute?


Personally, I think there should be some kind of average between pages indexed between google and yahoo. After all - this is supose to be an ad exchange network. Im showing the ads to visitors regardless of what the google api is doing. And even from the concept of SEO - the ads I show ads assist rankings on Yahoo too - not just google. I think it would be a better, more stable and more fair system to all.

 

NO !!!!!!!!

 

Yes - and as I said, even from an SEO perspective, the ads still affect Yahoo rankings and MSN rankings.

Its also not good for the coop for the amount of links to vary so greatly. Ive lost half my weight in the past few weeks... think that doesnt raise google's eye a bit?

I think its time to 'remodel' the coop a bit.

 

This puts us in a tricky position.
The COOP is FREE and is an excellent resource which helps us who use it immensely.
There is no way I am going to criticize any part of it, it's not my place to anyway, I don't pay anything towards it.

That said nothing stays the same forever and maybe it could be improved in some areas.

 

I'm with you VS. The coop shouldn't get changed just because the datacenters are a little shaky at the moment. Why change a winning formation?

 

Heh, I like how the ads on this thread are for Bipolar Treatment and Mood Swings...seems pretty fitting not only for this community, but for how google is acting.

Maybe Google should click a few of its own ads and get some help on fixing its shit.

 

I don't see the coop as free per se'. It's free to participate, but outbound links on our sites are worth something and our links on other sites are worth something. So it's collaborative.

But that is not to be confused with quid-pro-quo.

When we get taken out of rotation for some bullshit page in google not having ads on our site. We still show ads for other sites, yet no one shows our ads. Then we need four days to get back in rotation. All the while still showing ads at the same rate on our sites while waiting.

Then, when our weight varies and our ads shown less, it's possible that we are still recieving the same traffic and showing the same number of ads as with high weight. This is quite an inbalance at times.

There is alot of give and take in the system that can be noticed, but I don't have the solution. IMO weight should be tied to traffic as well as indexed pages and PR. But I don't see a way to pull that off.

A revamp of the coop? I dunno. But there is room for a little more compromise.

How about if a page is found with no link, we have 24 hours to correct it without losing 4 days in rotation?

What if the page no loner exists? What concessions can be made to not lose 4 days in rotation for these?

I got taken out of rotation for an RSS page. That don't seem fair at all!

There's always room for compromise and adjustment without changing the whole program. I hope we can get a heads up on some of these concerns.

Thanks