Rules Wrongful negative - feedback what to do?

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by cwvps, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. #1
    Hi

    I paid username: megha verma to do real estate article submission. This individual said it would take 24 hours to complete and stalled me for 24 hours each day. Seven days later I do not have this job completed and I received negative feedback because i am a "Cheap Grade Buyer" which doesn't quite make sense, possibly because she lives in a third world country and doesn't understand English.

    Can someone assist me in clearing this negative feedback when I clearly fufilled my obligations as a buyer to pay her for her work even though she did not complete the tasks?

    Thank you
     
    cwvps, Aug 20, 2010 IP
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  2. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #2
    iTrader is for the most part unmoderated. The only exception is completely fake iTrader.

    You have left -ve iTrader for megha verma and they have done the same for you. Case closed I'm afraid.
     
    mcfox, Aug 20, 2010 IP
  3. cwvps

    cwvps Well-Known Member

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    #3
    That doesn't quite make sense.

    I paid her, she didn't complete the task. My negative feedback is definitely accounted for. megha verma left me negative feedback out of spite.

    Maybe someone from the DP staff can assist me with resolving this?
     
    cwvps, Aug 20, 2010 IP
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    mcfox Wind Maker

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    Maybe but I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. It's unfortunate but it's the best system we have here.
     
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    bk871 Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Yep, unfortunately all transactions (unless both members are premium) aren't mediated.

    Leaving a -ve itrader is your own risk, of course they'll attack back.
     
    bk871, Aug 20, 2010 IP
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    Grimm Peon

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    and mcfox is a DP staff, a moderator in other words. As they say, "don't do unto others IF you don't want others bite your ass back." :)

    Seriously, don't take it TOO seriously. Just learn from it and move on, MAKE sure that you choose the people you deal with very carefully or you'll end up with another -iTrader.
     
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    Serious Workers Well-Known Member

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    Well, I really don't like any P&R things. But, this seriously hurt me. I think Mods should remove this line. :mad:
     
    Serious Workers, Aug 20, 2010 IP
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    Quench Active Member

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    #8
    yeah its wrong how someone sells you something illegal, the seller has good itrader but yet, you give them a bad itrader because they have %100 done wrong, you have been ripped off and lost your money for good because the seller will not refund. but yet the seller can give you a bad itrader, like ha? over what? im in the right not them. the system needs to be changed in a small way. it gives us honest people a bad name.

    and yeah as said above not much we can do about it.
     
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  9. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    How can it be changed? I'm pretty sure Shawn is open to suggestions.
     
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    Serious Workers Well-Known Member

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    mcfox Wind Maker

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    Your suggestion for someone to deal with iTraders is unworkable, unfortunately. Everyone who received a red would automatically 'appeal'. The time involved in trying to deal with that would prove impossible, not to mention it would place mods in a 'no-win' situation.
     
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    Serious Workers Well-Known Member

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    I am not talking about mine only, there are few more guys who have given suggestion. :)

    And at that time anyone from Staff would have told that in that thread as well. So, many people would give there valuable suggestion. As because this thing is creating a havoc in this community.
     
    Serious Workers, Aug 20, 2010 IP
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    mcfox Wind Maker

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    As far as I can see most of the suggestions involve moderators and believe me, it isn't something anyone wants to moderate. The probable 'he said, she said' nature of complaints, the inevitable faked screenshots, the time involved alone would be prohibitive. I mean, really, in order to actually look at complaints properly, mods would need access to people's Paypal accounts and I for one, would not be prepared to do that even if someone wanted me to.

    Shawn's already added a couple of new features in BS&T for people to confirm their Paypal accounts (and confirm they own sites, domains, etc.) which he's still working through to iron out the issues.
     
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    Serious Workers Well-Known Member

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    #14
    That is also a right thing. Of course no mods want to spare time for such headaches. But, there was one more good suggestion from Helvetii - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1522244

    That doesn't involve any Mods in the matter. And it would easier also, I think.

    That is surely great, and surely that will stop some amount of scamming. But, that isn't the solution for iTraders, I think.
     
    Serious Workers, Aug 20, 2010 IP
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    Helvetii Notable Member

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    mubashirnisar Banned

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    #16
    since you left a -ve,so did she,and i got 2 -ve just like you cause i dealt with some stupidest persons of earth,but i dont have any other choice but to live with them,so i guess you should also stop thinking about it,and move on with your new deals and new hirings
     
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    xInd Notable Member

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    #17
    I think we should look at Helvetii's suggestion further.
    With the comments and the ability to change your iTrader later is essential. Whenever dealing with a less than perfect ahead of schedule transaction, there is always that lingering time where we wonder, when is long enough to wait. I'm sure even good members have reluctantly left negative iTrader for lack of anything else to do at that lingering point of no return, only to feel bad about it the next day or next week when you hear from the person and what happened, perhaps... I think I had something useful on this subject before, although probably inconclusive...

    Here's a new one... What about sort of like a spin off of escrow for iTrader here... So before the transaction starts you can appoint a mediator. This would allow some members to create a new job that could earn money. If you gain a reputation for being fair and objectionable, you could be sought out to oversee transactions, and perhaps be given some form of power of the outcome of the iTrader for the transaction... Would need some fine tuning, but it would be a way to keep it out of the mod's hands, and allow a bit more for the members... Combine it with Helvetii's idea and some tweaking and we might just get people happy with the iTrader system around here forever... ?
     
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  18. cwvps

    cwvps Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all your input guys, makes me feel like i'm not alone here. I've been part of Digital Point for quite some time so i'm looking for a positive end result for the continued growth of this community.

    Just as an update:
    The user has now told other users the reason she received negative iTrader was due to me requiring "illegal porn links to your competitors website." I just received a message from a user confirming whether or not this is true. Of course it is NOT true, I was hoping she would complete her article directory submission task for my Real Estate website. I am getting very irritated with this situation. I received this through a PM from user: m0nk3y
     
    cwvps, Aug 26, 2010 IP
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    mubashirnisar Banned

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    #19
    report this to a mod,and give him reference to your pm,she is actually harassing your reputation,and according to dp rules it is strictly forbidden,she is going beyond limits and spreading false information about you,so you should report her
     
    mubashirnisar, Aug 26, 2010 IP
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    As already mentioned the itrader section is unmoderated and if you give a negative rating there is much possibility that you will get the same.So, be careful.
     
    Zetiz, Sep 2, 2010 IP