I am thinking about starting an SEO web hosting service. This is how it would work: - Client can choose how many unique class-c IPs they would like. - They can choose between 1-50 IPs. Pricing will start at $6 per IP, but will be progressively cheaper if they order more. (i.e. 50 IPs would only cost $4 per IP) Each IP will be a unique class-c and the IPs will be from all over the world.
Hi! Sadly..it would violate ARIN rules for IP use..which would not last long at all. You cannot legally use IPs in this way..they will have every right to take them back..and perhaps even penalize your host as well. Bryon
Hostgator sells SEO webhosting on one of their sister sites. I do not believe there is anything wrong with it unless you are spamming. Anyone care to chime in on this matter?
There are several places that do this already. Arin has no problem with this at all. And by the way, for $6/month, hell yeah I'll take it. So long as it doesn't get shut down if one little person bitches about something.
That would be where my morality comes into play. I would not be selling this type of hosting to those who wish to abuse it and I would have to monitor everything closely so one bad apple doesn't ruin it for the bunch.
Actually this is completely against the arin policies. But it's tough for them to be enforcing it so for most this is going to go unnoticed and they will not care. The reason this works fine for hostgator is they probably have so many ranges and ip's from each going unused it's not a problem to assign various different c class ip's.
Well yeah? You have to own them.. if they didn't "have so many ranges", where did you think they'd be getting them? HiJacking them?
Well I mean they have 300 servers or whatever and they have many many large ranges. Users canceling as a result SSL ip's freeing up and things of that nature. For some small time host to offer a large amount of different C class range IP's it is going to be very tough to justify it to their provider even. With hostgator's case they were already justified for othert hings when SEO hosting was not what they were using them for.
Isn't that just adding a service to your existing business? Don't most hosts source IPs for you as needed. Mine only charges about $2 so you'd need to bring your prices down.
From ARIN's policies : ISPs must have efficiently utilized all previous allocations and at least 80% of their most recent allocation in order to receive additional space. When an ISP submits a request for IP address space to be used for IP-based web hosting, it will supply its technical justification for this practice. Web hosting "IP based" is not a good justification to obtain additional addresses. Web hosting should be done "named based" on only one IP address. 80% of all assigned IP addresses must be in use within 30 days following attribution. Just a random search but pretty much every provider says the same thing and the ARIN guidelines say this as well in even more detail. So SEO is not a valid reason at all.
So they can, they just need to have (slightly) filled servers. With shared hosting, it seems easy. 800 clients for a webhost is not hard, considering some have 300 per SERVER. So you spread out the first several customers, and you're set.
Lets just say you have shared customers no SSL, nothing else that requires it's own IP. You're only getting 1 IP per box out of this. Now assuming you're large and smart you're going to be getting IP addresses in larger blocks than that. Just to give you an idea here we're averaging about 8 different c classes per 250 IP addresses assigned to us. Since we go through a datacenter it is possible to get small more reasonable blocks. So we get 32 IP's or so a shot with 29 usable after we put them on our vlan. If someone is saying yeah we'll offer you up to 50 dedicated IP's all with different C classes I have a real big trouble believing that. I see that is unbelievably wasteful and absolutely useless on top of that. People should start working on content of their web sites opposed to some theories they believe will help them with the search engines.