Work around MSN Adsense penalty

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by tbarr60, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. #1
    I suspected that MSN is dropping SERP's for sites with Adsense and just read an article at site-reference.com with similar observations. I was thinking about adding some conditional code to my site to leave my adsense code out if the visitor was a bot. Alternatively, I was thinking of storing my Adsense code in an include file called in by JavaScript.

    I looked through the Adsense TOS and the forums and didn't find anything, so I am interested in any thoughts, facts, and opinions.

    Thanks.
     
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  2. GADOOD

    GADOOD Peon

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    Worth a try to see if it has any effect innit?

    Infact, I'm gunna.

    Can't be too sure these days, not if Ballmer has anything to do with it. :)

    I can't see Yahoo or Google doing *anything* like filtering results for competitors, but Microsoft? Wouldn't put it past 'em.. not that I have anything against them, just how it is......or could be.

    Oh yes... question: How would we do this? It wouldn't break TOS I don't think, I've heard people mentioning doing it before.

    Another thing.. I've just checked a few of my high ranking competitors is MSN, where I used to be, first page - they seem to be doing this... interesting. Perhaps it adds weight to the theory, 'ou knows.. just tell me how it's done I'd like to try it out anyway!

    Pete
     
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  3. dct

    dct Finder of cool gadgets

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    I've not seen any evidence of this at all, the majority of my sites do very well in MSN, Adsense and all.
     
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  4. webseo

    webseo Well-Known Member

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    Same here. My site ranks very well on msn.
     
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  5. tbarr60

    tbarr60 Notable Member

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  7. gbaryah

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    Watch out for cloaking penalties from Google if you show different content to spiders/bots
     
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  8. redmachine76

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    #8
    my two months old site go from first page is MSN SERP to fourt or fifth page after i put up adsense ...

    may be this filter is for new site only...
     
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  9. aeiouy

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    That is pretty common behavior for MSN and has nothing to do with adsense.

    I haven't seen any evidence of MSN penalizing sites for having adsense on them.
     
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    People often jumped to conspiracy when the simple explanation is too simple. MSN's search is half-baked, a.k.a. it's broken.
     
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  11. my44

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    My website is ranked #1 and #2 for two different search terms. I'm not sure about MSN discriminating websites that have AdSense in them. Ironically, I don't do well with Google SERPs.
     
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  12. kalius

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    All my sites with adsence do very well on msn.

    More SEO rubish teories...
     
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  13. dpak

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    My site does well on MSN too and it has Adsense on it, but it does bad on Google. So maybe we have the theory wrong and it's actually Google who discriminates against Adsense... hehe :)
     
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  14. my44

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    And the good thing is, in term of traffic ranking, MSN is ranked at #2 versus Google's #3. Maybe because a lot of web browsers out there has default setting to open to MSN search page.
     
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  15. Ch-Nauman

    Ch-Nauman Active Member

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    oh no no...

    For past few weeks i vitnessed a vertical trend in my msn traffic.
     
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  16. saintdw

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    I stuill rank very well for some terms and i have adsense
     
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  17. Deano

    Deano Sail away with me.

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    Is this really true? I thought that google beat all the other search engines put together.
     
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  18. aeiouy

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    He must be refering to something like Alexa ranking.
     
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  19. my44

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    Correct, Alexa ranking. May I ask, how relevant is the ranking though? Bcoz I do keep track the ranking for my websites.
     
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  20. Shoemoney

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    Well I can give you some facts. I have several sites that consistantly rank top for there search term and they all have no less then 3 google ads per.
     
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