Thesis is probably the biggest new opportunity presenting itself to designers right now. It's got a ton of superior features and there aren't many good designers/experts out there. I know. I hired 3 "gurus" who said they were experts and they didn't know squat. I'm not paying someone to learn on my dime. If however you want to develop some new expertise to add to your repertoire I'll provide the opportunity to use the software/them and give you access to the support forums. I've purchased it and want to do all my sites with it...but my business model does not include me being the expert (at thesis layout!) If you want to cut your teeth on a real project...my new site...and be able to hang out a shingle afterward send me a pm. Wordpress gurus only please. I want a quick turnaround and there MAY be a ton of work in the future for the right person. Gimme a shout. Spiritman