Womens Rights -- Are they for all women or just some women?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Will.Spencer, Dec 15, 2005.

  1. Crazy_Zap

    Crazy_Zap Well-Known Member

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    #21

    Will, you are asking these questions as if the moral choice were yours to make. How would you take to someone coming into the USA and imposing their morality on you? I'm sure they would feel just as strongly that they were right.
     
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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #22
    Well see there ccol1968, you've answered the question without (apparently) even reading it.

    You have chosen:

    "sit back, listen to some music, and watch as one group in the third world continues to impose by force of arms and law its world view on the other weaker group in the third world"

    and...

    "morally better for us to let the strong attack the weak"

    and...

    "achieve moral superiority by abandoning them to their fate"

    Thank you for your answer. I didn't even know you were female!
     
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  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #23
    US marines charged with rape

    "Philippine prosecutors yesterday charged four US marines with raping a 22-year-old Filipina woman in a case that could strain friendly ties between the two countries."

    Okinawa marine charged

    "An American marine has been charged with molesting a schoolgirl on the southern Japanese island of Okinawa. "

    Marine Drill Instructors Charged After Raping Several New Recruits

    "Intensifying a sexual misconduct inquiry that began last spring, the Marine Corps has charged two drill instructors with raping trainees at a military base in Missouri, officials said Wednesday.

    The rape charges are an outgrowth of misconduct cases brought against seven Marine instructors in a training detachment at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri. All were accused in April of a range of charges, including sexual harassment and inappropriate sexual relations with students under their jurisdiction. One has been convicted."



    Little willy;

    You assume that those people raped a woman because they they were Muslims but after looking at above case will you also argue that all American marines are rapists?

    Of course not. rape has nothing to do with religion or career. It is a criminal act committed by criminals. How many rapes does happen in USA on yearly bases? Don't you think if Bush wants to start somewhere to stop rapes, he should start at home first? :rolleyes:

    Number of rapes in USA: 94635 RAPES A YEAR IN USA (This is the official number but many rapes are never reported)

    The number of rapes has increased in three of the past four years, according to the FBI data. In all, rapes increased by .8 percent to 94,635 rapes, or about 750 more than in 2003.

    If we consider that half the population in USA are women, this means that every woman has 1 in 1,562 chance of being raped.

    Are you going to blame this on Muslims too? :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Crazy_Zap

    Crazy_Zap Well-Known Member

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    #24

    Are females the only people that you feel comfortable enough to exchange ideas with? I had no idea. You should try getting together with some of your wife's friends' husbands sometime and just talk about sports or cars or something. You may find that you enjoy the feeling of a little testosterone pumping through your body. :)

    I was just questioning your ability to ask some of those questions from a moral standpoint.
     
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    #25
    You will not get straight answers Will, because they know by answering it will box them in. Remember there are no moral absolutes anymore. I think bomb shelters are on the way back Will.


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  6. Will.Spencer

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    #26
    gworld:

    As per usual, your pathetic attempts to twist conversations to your little troll ways of thinking has failed.

    Anyone with two brain cells can see that the difference between the two civilizations is that one prosecutes rapists and the other persecutes rape victims.

    It's not the bad behavior that differs, it is the societal and law enforcement response to it.

    Try again troll boy!
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #27
    Little willy;

    Your original post was about rape in Australia by some Muslim man. How is the police response different in Australia if rape is committed by a native Australian, an immigrant, A Muslim or non-Muslim? :rolleyes:

    You just wanted to use that excuse to post your usual racist BS about foreigners (non white) and Muslims by making it sound like there is something in their culture or Islam that makes everyone a rapist.
    I called you on it and showed that rape has nothing to do with religion and it is committed by men in different social class, race and religion.

    You are not concerned with women rights or violence against them, it is just an excuse for your usual racist hate propaganda.
     
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  8. debunked

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    #28
    Gworld, are you only concerned with trying to make the USA look like the bad guy in everything? This is getting beyond old. Start with your own country, providence, city, street or best yet your own home. I am sure there are a few years of problems to correct there.
     
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    #29
    It is not about USA. Rape is an international problem. The majority of rapes are not even by strangers but by someone that a women knows like a family member, neighbor, classmate, co-worker,date rape... and that is the reason a lot of rapes are not reported.

    In some countries, the surveys show that almost 50% of women experience rape in their life time and these are countries that we call western civilization.

    Rape is not about a sex, it is a criminal act committed by criminals and should be dealt with. People like little willy that use these victims of crime as their tool for their racist hate propaganda are effectively raping these women again by distracting the attention from the real problems to their own hate agenda. :mad:
     
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    #30
    This from a person who say's all priest are pedophiles, and all Christians are hypocrites. :rolleyes:

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    #31
    What the heck are you talking about? You really can act like an idiot sometimes. Hate is clouding your judgement again. If my memory serves me correctly, Will married a woman who was raised as a muslim and I don't think she is white, and is probably very pretty. But someone like you can't get past skin color. To you only white can be pretty is my guess.
     
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    #32
    Not all priests but it seems that your priest was. ;)
    May be that is the reason you dislike sex so much.
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

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    #33
    gworld, you are a troll.

    For the benefit of those who do not know the story, my wife was born into a Muslim society and, under Islamic law, we are both supposed to be put to death.

    My wife should be executed for marrying an infidel and I should be executed for stealing one of their women.

    Luckily, we live in the United States and the law here doesn't put up with that crap.

    If we lived in a different part of the world, we would not be living today.

    This is all fun and games to gworld, because none of it is real to him. Nothing is real to gworld except his burning hatred and his insatiable need for attention.
     
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    #34
    Well, since you like guy's, you must know. ;)


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    #37
    I haven't read the Koran, does it state that in the Koran?

    A lot of Christians like to extrapolate and interpret the bible for their own agenda's. Sharia law seems to be the same for me.
     
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    #38
    Just further proof that organized religion (cults) is generally a bad idea. I have known so many people who were previously friends with me until the got converted into something by one of the religions (usually Christianity). After that, they change into something completely different than they were and the relationship inevitably crumbles. Either I can't stand to be around them anymore because I refuse to be converted. Live and let live is my motto. Or, they can no longer be my friend because I am going to burn in hell for all eternity and there is no saving me. The whole idea is f*cked. Why can't everyone just allow others to be what they want to be? :mad:
     
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  19. Will.Spencer

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    #39
    Luckily for me, my wife damned near has the Koran memorized.

    Did you know that the Koran is not valid in any language other than Arabic? This means that, according the the Koran, you must learn Arabic to read the Koran. All translations are, by Koranic definition, incorrect.

    So, anyone who tells you that they have read the Koran -- ask them if they read Arabic. If not... then all they have read are (unacceptable) translations.

    So, yes, my authoritative source on the Koran keeps an H&K USP .45 or a Glock 26 9mm around at pretty much all times to prevent the application of Islamic law.
     
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    #40
    Coming from a strong liberal family, I already know the canned response:

    "Doesn't matter, Bush lied!"

    ;)
     
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