Apparently the problem is always with the "translation" isn't it? Does every word have several different meanings, or just the violent ones? Is this man an anti-islamist? How about this book? http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Silas/wife-beating.htm http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sr&ID=SR2704
Lol wait a min samantha i represent here turkey as an women. I have studied places where you even can't imagine. There is one fact that you should learn about is that. Turkey doesnt need EU. I guess you never learnd politics ? Well i did , and i didnt learn it in turkey i learned in the united states. So please dont tell me politics stuff. Turkey is trying to be a member of euroupe cause eu money share will be given to turkey and turkey would have much more seats in eu union. Most of the eu people knows this and dont want turkey. Not because of human rights. We have seen countries in the eu trying to protect terorist groups and these are static facts given from the interpol . You have no right as a simple citizen who does not know anything only a fact of articles you read from the news sites. Which is only propoganda. Im not harshing on anyone or talking about anyones beliefs im a islamic women its my own decision to do what ever i want. Turkey is a republic country. So please do warned to learn much more better. Another faul your discussing who is we ? "we got the money" is it denmark or eu ? If its denmark whats your population ? Whats your yearly money waste in protecting your country. Turkey is the heart of the middle east balancing the countires. I would be happy for the feedback thoe what i wrote about. Thanks everyone thanks leet. thanks samantha.
About talking human rights we all know that some countries made some laws who ever doesnt accept that turks slaughtered the armenians will punished for instance France. Well France is a member of eu . Do we make a law that who ever doesnt accept that france slaughtered algerian 100 years will be justiced by the laws ? no... So please becarefull also about talking human rights.
1- its not reason 2- are you citizen of turkey ? do you know what is correct what wrong rather then reading the news ? no , Did you read the political writen things between countries ? no. 3-Turkey killed 1.000.000 people ? In the II.world war ? wow i thought we were defending our country lol samantha please dont type anything about my country i suggest you to find the correct things and learn the correct things as for me i will represent as a women forever. I love my country and i will protect my country against any propoganda untill the true facts are learned and written yes we have problems but the problems that is mirrorized by you is not correct thanks for your information.
i guess english wasnt one of the things you studied, i find it hard to understand what you are saying. hmmm classic case of online translator go wrong.
Not to mention Denmark and some other countries is still protecting some terorist force unions which killed 50.000 soldiers form 1991 - uptill today called P.K.K partizans. This is another true fact . Go ahead to the city library and search it.. Oh i forgot was it was also Denmark who made a joke about some other peoples beliefs about quoran . So where is the human rights ? Where does it give the privallege of making jokes of other peoples beliefs ? Oh i would really like to listen to you.
Instead of making fun of people , i would advise you to read and answer ? If its hard to answer then please dont get tired typing
It is illegal to criticise Turkishness in Turkey, you have a law that carries 3 years in jail for talking bad about turkey. turkey committing genocide is a fact, whats also true is that turkey will not admit to it, the prooganda has been fed to you, and you believe what your own states prooganda has told you. i really dont feel the EU has anything to gain from allowing turkey membership just yet, not until you improve matter that the EU feel strong about, and thats human rights. turkey getting rid of the illegal to criticise Turkishness law, as that kills freedom of speach, not for the EU members, but for turkish people, and the EU will not allow your country to abuse your freedom and human rights. so until you get that sorted out, you are not welcome in the EU,
lol as before i said we dont want to be eu member it would only give us much more money but we dont need that but you need us for protection and market consumer needs
yea you want to join, thats why you have applied to join, you need our money, turkey to protect us? ha ha ha lets see NATO yea most of the EU is in nato, if the middle east sends nukes to the EU we send some back, turkey gets the fallout from both sides, hmmm i wouldnt wanna live in turkey
Did you even read any of the posts I have written? what has your post got to do with my previous reply? I was merely informing you that these laws where women get beaten are not Islamic laws but Laws of an islamic country which misuse the verses of the quran to justify there laws. Not once have I attempted to tell you that the women do not desrve to be treated as equally as men, or that their word means nothing. So how I managed to tell you that the 'word of women is not as valued as that of men' I really can't imagine. You seem to be quite obsessed with all this womens rights stuff and seem to be under the impression that women are not treated as equally to men in Islam. Yes, women are treated like dirt in most Islamic countries but that has got nothing to do with Islam,thats the laws of that particular country. Islam sees men and women as equal, 'Sammie' Try to understand what others try to say instead of always jumping the gun and start banging on about mis treatment of women. I think your going have to dry up and blow away because you seem to come across as someone who really doesn't know what they are on about and your mind is just stuck on a loop, .....mistretment of women-mistreatment of women-mistreatment of women..... 'Dry up and blow away 'sammy'.
Well if one word has several meanings then it has several meanings, surely you can't deny that, right? No, that man obviously seems to be a misguided follower of Islam, again women beating is not in Islam its the rule of the particular country.
Thats what I have noticed about Sam as well, she doesn't seem to know what shes on about and comes up with a load of bs. She seems to have points which she can't argue....
Yes, everyone seems to be "misguided" and everything is "mistranslated" and the religion is always "misunderstood," etc, etc, etc. In the presence of information, denial once again prevails.
Well thats life GTech. What information is this then? Information about someone creating a book on how to beat women? Oh! so that must mean its certainly IN Islam and everyone follows it, is that the correct logic? The denial is once again on your behalf, denial to accept the truth that is infront of you. denial to accept that a word can be mistranslated, denial to believe that someone can be misguided. I think its high time you found a better hobby than spending most of your time trying to turn everyone against Islam. What do you call someone in your religion that is not following the religion correctly?
The truth is in the quran, so are the scriptures. The book is written to tell muslim men how to beat their wives. I didn't write the book. I'm simply aware of it. I didn't write the scriptures in the quran, I'm simply aware of them. Trying your hand at cognitive dissonance today? That's a step up in tactics for you. I take it as a compliment
Nowhere in the Quran does it instruct men to beat women, I have provided evidance but you want to live in denial but if you still want to believe that then please do, I really couldn't be bothered. Well done!! what do you want a gold star..... Did someone say that GTech had written the book? I must have missed that, well thanks for clearing that up !! Obviously you would be aware of it, as an anti islamist like yourself can use it to your advantage to create more negativity about Islam- which you are doing. The evidance of you being educated in psychology just keeps growing Please share the logic you used to arrive at this point?
Incorrect. It is covered quite well, in great detail, here: http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Silas/wife-beating.htm Straight from the scripture: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/004.qmt.html Back to denial now? Perhaps this is a good time to whip out the translation card?
How did you guess? maybe becuase you know that the word which has been translated into beat can also be translated into other words? Are you denying it? What makes you more of an expert as to what an arabic word is translated into english, How do you now that the word is translated into beat? Is it because it agrees with and provides you with an advantage to use against Islam?