That would only be true if Muhammed married her when she was aged 6, but the thing is he didn't. There is no evidence pointing to this in the Quran. Do your research before coming out with crap like: Have a bit of respect for others beliefs, there are other ways to say what you want to say without causing offence to anyone. Do you believe the Hadith then Sam? so why do you seem to believe one section of it? I find it strange how people always want to believe the negative things about Islam which are written in the Hadith but not the positive. Just remember the Hadith is compiled from reports by word of mouth- a bit like a game of chinese whispers....
Do the actions of all Christian followers follow what the Bible says? If so than we should all join the KKK or bomb abortion clinics right? Cause the followers of the Bible are "Consistent". Remember, many people do things in the name of Christianity... we just don't hear about it as much any more because our country has become obsessed with finding flaws in Islam. I think that the starter of this thread did alot to clear things up for us as for women's rights. And as a Muslim, she is actually has an idea what she is saying, its not just regurgitated hate like some spew. So why are all of you hating her? She just tried to give you some information...
thinking about what you said about child abuse (my friend at the time of the jesus same thing was going on) this was nonetheless a tradition you can say at the time. Girls get married at such a little age. Atleast she wasn't buried alive !! what do you think is the worse child abuse... Buried alive ? or Getting married at 6? like they were accustomed to. Prophet Muhammad had 11 wifes just to show what types or women a man can marry. Like as a widow who is his friend's wife, a widow just in normal, a girl who is divorced, a girl who is a virgin (the 6 yr old girl you talked about) ................................ BTW Aisha wasn't 6 yr old when prophet muhammad married her. Second all: before putting flame on other's prophets and saying how bad the character was ... u shud look at your own one because i can point out so many mistakes in any prophet. To the person who said: Muslims interpret quaran in the way they want to. Any other religion do the same. As a matter of fact that we only have one version of quaran, but look at the bible ... you guys don't even know which one is real !! ??? if someone can tell me which one is real i'd be more than happy to know. Same thing in bible because baptist, protestants, catholic .... all the different branches (christians) have ... why they are there ??? Obviously because they interpretted the bible differently and see things differently ... I think i cleared my point here
They are only hating becuase she is highlighting the positive side of Islam, whereas they want everyone to believe just the negative part, no matter what we say or do these bigoted people will not understand nor will they attempt to change their views even when the facts are staring them in the face. There is no hope....
as i understand it he took her at the age of 6 and then conumated the marrage at the age of nine, maybe we find the chopping of our heads off and stoning to death of women, a little more than negative, hmmm repulsive infact, and for any state to dis that out is going to find people like me, disliking it all the time.
ask her if they dont stone women to death, shoot them in the back of the head, whip girls that are rape victims because they are still alive so didnt fight hard enough for thier honor. ask her if state sanctioned child abuse is acceptable to all young girls, that just want to have a normal childhood, not be a mother at 13. ask her if women can drive in saudi arabia, ask her if women can be educated to read in afganistan. ask her if a woman can feel the breeze blow through her hair or feel the sun on her sholders. no they cant, thats just something they never get to feel, and thats so sad. ask her if the quran says men can beat women that disobey them and if a woman says no to sex, he has the right to beat her till she submits.
I know thats what you understand, its just the way it was said. The evidance for that is where? Answer:In the Hadith, So you believe this section of the Hadith, Why don't you believe the rest of the Hadith then? Is it that you only want to believe the negative things or 'repulsive' things? Just remeber the Hadith is compiled from reports by word of mouth- i.e Chinese whispers- does that make it a good source to use? I'm sorry I don't understand what you are saying here. The evidance for stoning et al can also be found in the NT.
All this driving stuff is nonsense, anybody with a brain knows that cars were not invented when Islam started and the rules were made, so how can anyone say driving is against Islam? anybody who believes that is a greater fool than the people who made this rule up. Those points that you have illustrated are not due to Islam but due to the wrong application and/or understanding of the Quranic law. These "Islamic" countries" try to apply the law of the Quran in favor for their man made laws, and corupted religious laws which have orignated from sources other than the Quran. Anti Islamic 'people' try to take advantage of these 'wrong application of the law' and try to paint a negative picture of Islam in the eyes of the ignorant public who do not educate themselves about the true nature of Islam. I'll answer that on her behalf- No
you see the difference with the christians is that they are not afraid to look at the book and apply moden acceptable ethics to it, like set limits for sexual consent, the law of the land dictates the laws, not the books, you are so backward in human rights you still allow a book to cover child sexual abuse under the pretence of marrage. and thats what most people find revolting. there is no need to live as they did 1500 years ago, and you cant see that the abuse of females is real, not something you can hide, because it is on the TV every single day all around the plannet, until you come into the real world, you'll never be fully accepted as being normal in my eye's i really find it hard to believe that some of you are really well educated and rational on some things, but defend your rights to abuse women and children that is from the stoneage. human rights, when you accept that everyone has basic human rights to life, you'll find you are more acceptable to people that at the moment, find your treatment of people (females mostly), repulsive.
Religion should not be somethng which is man made, you can't just adjust it to the way you want or is acceptable to society. The abuse of females is not down to laws of Islam but down to the laws of 'islamic countries' which use the wrong application of quranic verses to justify there laws. People do not see it this way as they do not educate themselves about a topic instead they just listen to the media or other anti islamic people instead of finding out facts for themselves. Until you understand that these laws are not in Islam, but in so called islamic countries and until you find out the facts of Islam for yourself instead of believeing everything in the media or from anti islamic people, there is no point in debating this as the laws of a religion and the laws of a country are two different things
car didnt have to be invented, you systematicly abuse women, by removing their rights, or giving men the right to drive, because women are below men, and that gives one more moden time repression of women in an islamic state
Well for a law to be set about an object, surely it has to be invented? Or did they just think that a car will be invented in the future and make a law about it? God made men and women equal in Islam, if they are not treated as such in a country that is not due to Islam but people who made the laws of that country.
does it not say in the quran, that a man has the god given right to beat a woman if she is disobedant? is that not opperssing women? is that not wrong? then why do it?
No, it doesn't You were probably going to refer me to this english translated quote then: ". . . As to those women on whose part you fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly). . ." (4:34) Well i'd just like to point out that the word which has been translated into 'beat them' is a word of multiple meaning, with meanings ranging from 'to get out' to 'to explain', How do we know which is the right one? *waits for GTech's post accusing me of playing the 'translation card'*
sammie plays the female muslim movie card, i trust a muslim womans word over a muslim mans word any day. Ayaan Hirsi Ali << she has a death warrant on her head, the film maker that made her movie, was killed for making her movie. and a note was pinned to his body with a knife in his chest with her death threat. here she tells you what is written in the quran this is a 9 minute movie and you only have to watch the 1st 4 minutes. she tell you what men are allowed to do, and that is beat women.
Lol! Why trust someone elses word, wether it is a man or a woman? why not find out for yourself? What makes her translation right and others wrong? is it because of her sex? I told you that the verse which has been used to give 'permission' to beat wives, the word that has been translated into 'beat' has several different meanings. An anti islamist saying that men should beat women does mean that men should beat women- again find out the truth for yourself don't let others influence you you. All this cruelty is down to the laws of the country not the laws of islam. *plays the translation card again AND the laws of a country card*
how about the women that have been beaten by the men, lived under that fear every day, are you just being a jerk by sweaping thier pain and beating under the carpet, and trying to act the male macho guy in telling me their word means nothing? because thats what you are sounding like to me. just another man telling sammie that the word of women is not as valued as that of men, go join leet and dry up and blow away.