WMD'S: none were found : Iraq war fought over a lie, thats a fact!!!

You are assuming, and im still waiting on the facts you are claiming. I never said i did trust or agree. I only said that for you to say it is FACT that he lied, is a lie on its own. You are just full of assumptions, such a shame.

 

Man I don't have the time for these word games and word twisting. We can go around in circles if we start speaking in relative terms. I can turn this around on you this way.
I KNOW George W. Bush lied and prove to me that he didn't.

 

Just admit, that it is not FACT, its obvious that it isnt. I cant prove it, im not claiming that WMD will ever be found, your the one making claims

 

It is a fact that they lied. Donald Rumsfeld said Saddam has WMD and that they know where they are. if they didn't find them they couldn't have "known" where they were.

 

OK, how do you know it wasn't an Intel mistake, hopefully you know the difference in a mistake and an intentional lie. How are you going to prove that they intentionally kept the truth from us?

Yes they said it, no we didn't find wmd. These are facts. But to stay it was a lie, is not a fact. that would mean they knew the truth, and aimed to deceive.

How can you prove that they knew otherwise? Do you have recorded phone conversations? Video tape, anything? NO, there is nothing factual about that statement.

In the past people thought the moon was made of cheese, were they liers?

 

Intel mistake or not, He couldn't have "known" where they were by the virtue of the fact that they didn't find any.

 

First off back up that exact quote if we are going to take this route, do you have a video, or anything credible of him stating that?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYI7JXGqd0o 45 secs in
"We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad..."

So to repeat. By the virtue of the fact that no weapons of mass destruction were found we have to conclude that Rumsfeld didn't "know" and was lying when he claimed to "know".

 

Thanks stOx for the link; straight from the horse's mouth. What else does this guy want fro proof? simplyg123 maybe you should take a little vacation trip to Iraq to see if you can find any and put all our "claims" to rest.

 

How about a video that wasn't edited to say that. If this is the best you can do, you are up the creek. I would appreciate a better source if you have one, it sounds to me like he corrected the questioner, and said he did not say that, then another video kicks in to make it sound as if he did.

Now, even if he does say that he knows it, how do you know it wasn't a mistake. It still doesn't prove he was lieing.

It doesn't prove that he isn't just, repeating, what his Intel (bad Intel)has told him.

I never said i believed they were there, for the third time

 

WMD was found = Saddam

 

Amen to that

 

How about this then:

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=2185

US DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE.

That any better for you? Look right near the bottom of the transcript.

SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

Rumsfeld is a blatant lying corrupt warmongering scumbag, you need to start waking up mate.

 

Ok Granted he did say it, but that doesn't make him a lier, He knew what he knew based on what he was told, if what he was told was wrong, its a mistake, not a lie.

Note He is saying "WE" know, so obviously he is getting info from other sources, which could be wrong, or he could be blatantly lying. But to say that it is a fact that he lied, is reaching.

He may have lied, or it may have been a simple mistake.

The only way this can be proven fact or not, is with audio evidence or something hard, of him admitting to someone he was lying or that he knew there were no weapons.

 

He would admit it, except that the illuminati has removed his brain and is controlling him from the saucers in the clouds. The chem trails will eventually take over your brain so you will believe everything the government is telling you.

Just watch alex jones movies on the internet, they will tell you the trufth. Be sure to make the tin foil hat from tin and not aluminum!

 

I agree minus the fast part. I don't think "fast removal" is the best route i vote, gradual removal of the troops.

 

Bush Clearly stated that he was mistaken and there were no wmd's. That quote is a fact, and then stated it wasnt that big of a deal that there werent any wmd's. That saddam was a dictator and needed to go. Well there are many dictators around the world. I didnt know it was up to our government to specify who is the dictator or not and which dicator should stay and which should go. I think it was a very dictatorial move on the agencies to take out a peaceful leader of iran in the 1950's who was good for his people and force the iranian people to stomach the shah of iran, who was never elected to this position, who had one of the most brutal secret police in modern history(right up there with the SS etc), and who eventually pushed the desperate iranian people into the hands of teh crazy mullahs that we have in power today.
the administration said there was irrefutable evidence that we will see once we are in iraq without doubt. Face it , this war was fought over a lie.
When you wage war on another country, you better have solid proof without a doubt of why your doing it. this isnt some kidgame. Your fooling around with the lives and teh well being of the iraqi people and our soldiers of whom almost 4000 have died allready. Are you war backers going to go to their families houses and explain to them that their sons and daughters have died over some flimsy evidence?????????
Rediculous.
When my uncle went to war in normandy during ww2 they had a clear objective and everyone knew why they were going to war and teh whole country backed them up. Today almost 70% of america is against the iraqi war. We are waking up finally, and we wont be fooled into another war again.

 

Wisdom there is only one candidate that is talking about withdrawal and that is a candidate that we all know means what he says and says what he means.
Its Doctor Ron Paul

Now when our government tries to drum up support for another war, will we accept their word as gospel truth from god himself? I think we all know the answer to this question

 

That is of course one of the worst kind of responses from you debunked but that is your speciality, we're having a sensible debate backed up with links etc. then you come in with a very lame post with the obligatory "Tin Foil Hat" crap.

GTech will be very proud of you.