With invalid clicks is the site or the publisher id banned?

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by travelfish, May 6, 2006.

  1. #1
    I'm toying with setting up a site where users can submit content along with their own publisher ID so that they can earn the adsense income for their stories -- if there was a situation where suspected click-fraud arose, would Google ban the site or the individual publisher ID?

    Anyone know?
     
    travelfish, May 6, 2006 IP
  2. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    I believe Adsense would ban the publisher, and that the site would be the domain of Google Search Engine. People sometimes mistakes the two departments for one I think.
     
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  3. travelfish

    travelfish Peon

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    Thanks for the quick reply -- sorry I didn't make my question clear.

    What I'm wondering is, lets say one domain has adverts from 20 diferent publisher-IDs on it. One Publisher gets picked up for invalid clicks -- will that effect the other 19 (ie will adsense be banned totally from that domain) or can they roll on business as usual?
     
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    jackburton2006 Peon

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    I understood you just fine the first time. It's the chance you take. No one knows if your entire site will be crushed if one of your publishers does something naughty. Rev sharing is relatively new, and there's not nearly enough experiences with it to get a qualified answer. I'd email them and ask them, but they'll probably say the same thing -- don't know, let's see what happens, etc.
     
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  5. travelfish

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    ok thanks - will contact Google
     
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    and post the result please
     
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    Look at DigitalPoint. Members here have been banned that have had there ads show up here, and AdSense ads are still showing up.
     
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  8. travelfish

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    I took a search through DigitalPoint and found this thread:
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1758

    Which indicates they're ok with the revenue sharing model, but no clear info on who gets banned... have emailed them but no answer so far

    Good point Nintendo -- pretty much answers the question
     
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    I wouldn't be too quick to make that leap, travelfish. First, are we certain that members who participated in DP's rev sharing have in fact been banned from Adsense? And, most importantly, were their banishment directly related to DP's rev sharing, or did they get banned because of another site? Questions, questions...
     
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  10. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #10
    Not Really.


    It depends, Where the fraud happend.

    If click fraud happend on your site, no matter how many publishers you have, and whos pub Id is showing up that time, your site would be doomed.
    Publishers will go unaffected.

    But if Publisher commited Fraud at his own site/somewhere else, you'll face no consequences, may be a notice from google at the max, but publisher/other site will face a ban against them.
     
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  11. Indian

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    There are 2 things when Google bans someone. At some point its actually the site getting banned due to pornography, hidden words, duplicate content etc. or the person getting banned due to fraudelent clicks.

    Suppose I (me not my site)get banned by Google today and I feel theres no point in keeping a site which had income only from Google AdSense. I go ahead and sell that site to someone and that someone can use AdSense on that site cos its the person (me) who was banned and the site is still OK as it follows Google's TOS. I have purchased sites from ppl who were banned by Google and asked Google if I can publish ads to which they said yes I can.

    To ans your question, if a single publisher on your site is banned then your site is NOT banned ...others can continue displaying their ADs. On the other hand if your site breaks the TOS then theres a chance of all publishers getting banned. Ofcourse Google might warn all of them before this but who knows they might not. I have seen people getting banned for adult content WITHOUT being warned.
     
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  12. travelfish

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    Indian - thanks for the post -- food for thought..
     
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    #13
    The most important question still isn't yet answered: What happens if a publisher taking part in the rev sharing commits fraud on the rev sharing site. Would just the publisher be banned, or would the whole site?
     
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    Prolly the whole site.
    but google may invastigate this after being emailed.
     
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  15. Indian

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    The site can only be banned if the site breaks TOS (eg. Porn). There have been instances where a particular site is banned from AdSense but the publisher account remains active. So even if publisher A clicks his Ads on a site not of his own the site wont be banned but A's AdSense account will be.

    E.G. - I use my publisher id here on forums and keep clicking my Ads all day. Will Google ban Shawn? Did Shawn do anything wrong? NO. Theres the answer :)

    People at Google are human beings they know whats happening around.
     
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    seojunkie Banned

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    #16
    Very well said. Otherwise, Revenue sharing would NEVER have been possible.
     
    seojunkie, May 9, 2006 IP