Will U.S. Fights Iran?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Tranix, Apr 17, 2006.

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Will U.S. Fights Iran?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    15 vote(s)
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  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #181
    Hatred looks so much better in a larger font. :rolleyes:
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #182
    I love it when he does that! It tells me he's getting angry again. Of course, he's always *angry* about something :D

    I wonder if alex jones offers anger management training? :p
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #183
    Anger management is a conspiracy perpetrated by the Clinton-Bush crime family to keep poor white people down! :rolleyes:
     
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  4. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #184
    All I said was that Bush is spying on americans (which is proven), he's tapping into peoples phone calls and emails (also proven) without warrant's.

    They are also secretly breaking into homes and private businesses to do searches (that don't even have to be related to terrorism) using the patriot act. Wether or not they always have the secret warrant before they search I can't prove (probably because it's secret?). But considering Bush's track record, they probably don't.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #185
    I'm Italian. I never said my heritage was Norwegian. I'd slow down, take a deep breath and start at the beginning of thread and read, slowly and carefully. Have a nice night.
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #186
    DP's loss is my gain; he just showed up on my political forum. :)
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #187
    If you say so...

    It certainly is..
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #188
    Well, if this madness doesn't stop soon, I'm going to get angry! I mean what's next, Bush breaking into my home and stealing my Pace picante sauce? This ain't New York City, you know!
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #189
    You mean your friends? The al qaida terrorists? That's who was named.

    No proof? Not even a little? Just say it, and it's so!
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #190
    Hey, that sounds a lot like Scientology.. Freaky.
     
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  11. Rick_Michael

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    #191
    No one really knows the depth of this assertion, accept a select few people within the Senate. They've known since it happened, atleast that's what people within the Senate asserted.

    The real arguement is over whether the phone calls are going to terrorist areas outside of America or their domestic phone calls. Hardly anyone is contesting that you can't tap phone calls going outside of America if they're going to terrorist hot-spots.



    See, I don't recall hearing any of this proven in the hearing. They do claim they're concerned that this might be happening, but again I don't believe there's any direct evidence that this is happening. That is where the concern lies...but the proof ends.

    Personally, I think they have to improve the system as it's not current to the demands we have now. Just fighting against W isn't going to be helpful for the security of America. I can realize the bountaries may have been broken, but many NSA agents and officials have points in that the system needs reasonable updated legislation to deal with this. We can't focus on one side of this an ignore the other.

    I know plenty of presidents that have gone against the consititution in a crisis...and while that may not justify their actions we really need to take a better perspective than 'kick W out'. All we're looking for is a 'reasonable' process of keeping our nation secure.

    You want that don't you?
     
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  12. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #192
    So ask why he got banned :) Inquiring minds.
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #193
    FDR was the absolute worst in this regard, in terms of the number of times he broke the law. The level to which he went in many cases bending the law and the constitution makes GWB look like some kid that tried to steal gum from a gas station.

    I'm glad FDR did what he did though, and the world, not just the US is that much better because of it.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #194
    Reasonable will never include trampling the constitution, allowing the invasion of american citizens homes and lives, or arresting and detaining american citizens without right to a trial and a jury.

    All of these things have been done by our president, which I consider nothing less than treason. Our president is a criminal.

    I want to be safe just as much as the next guy, but I'm not willing to give up my freedom and privacy for safety.
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #195
    Maybe it was because he used all low case for his forum name... Wait, I did that too - crap!
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #196
    Example?


    sdfsadfsdafdasfadsfadsf
     
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  17. Rick_Michael

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    #197

    Chief, you're not getting my point. I'm not focusing my ideas only on Bush, because it's the process itself that can be worked on to prevent these (suggested) occurence and improve the system. Don't you agree we need to review the process as well as Bush's actions?

    Please: yes or no...or sort of....
     
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  18. Mr Crow

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    #198
    wait wait wait ... your the one mr Mia Mousalini that said the Ringblom's were Norwegian and you had all the inside info from the flower family (blom)

    Your so full of ship Mr. Mousallini its not even funny -
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #199
    I thought I was on ignore. I never said the Ringblom's were from Norway, nor did I say that was my last name. You need to calm down and re-read the thread. My name is in my signature. That should be your first clue.

    Thanx for the Mussolini interjection. My dad's dog's name was Marcella (they had to put her to sleep Tuesday). The dog was named by my grandfather (OSS, Italian Navy, US Spy). He was there when Mussolini was crucified upside down and had several trinkets from the event. The dog ironically he named after Mussolini's grand daughter.

    What does that have to do with the discussion? About as much as your incessant need to pander me with inaccuracies instead of reading each post.

    Still no answer to the question at hand though... Norway was neutral in WWI and WWII, that much is true.

    All this negativity is really boring me.
     
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  20. Mr Crow

    Mr Crow Peon

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    #200
    Ok Mia Mousalllini No Problem , if you are bored GO AWAY !!

    You have picked a fight with almost every one of your posts , I have been reading all you posts in other threads and thats exactly what you are ...

    An Argueing Asshole - SO I must consider the source

    Back on Ignore ..
     
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