Of course, we are always to open discussion, we even published our official documents about this issue which you refused to share yours. If there is anyone has a word to say about this rather than believing it just because it's against Turks, i'd be glad to listen. And i'd like to hear anyone talk about Armenian gangs terrorism, ASALA, and the Hodjali holocaust of 1992 as well. Btw; you are not protecting you country, we don't pose a threat towards your country as long as you do not cause problems over nothing. Just so you know; Turkey is a country which still one of the top 5 Armenian popularity live in, i even had an Armenian friend in my class, so you are just provoking, you are not at all protecting anything.
What about ASALA , I don't think that they are terrorist and we are Talking about 1915 not 1992 if you wish you can open another thread to discuss it. BTW what does mean norman-si I beleive it is in turkish ?
You don't think they are not terrorist? So you think killing Turkish diplomats and nuking embassies is not terrorism? You have a nice poıint of view. If we are talking about 1915 you know there was no "Turkey" in that piece of time, so if you know a bit of law you'd know Turkey would not be held responsible even it happened. But in 1992, there was an Armenia, so your country is responsible for that genocide. Now maybe you can force your big brother countries threatening with your votes, to accept it too, you can't even pursue your issues on your own unlike we do, if there were no big countries you could cry to, i wonder what you would do.
C'mon what are you talking about " No Turks " are you serious ? Turk or Ataturk is the same nation . OMG have listen many things but not Like this one P.S. Gotta go will reply all posts tomorrow Hey other parties ( nations ) give us some opinions too
Turkish Republic is founded by 1923, not in 1915, and Armenian accusations are mainly based on Enver Pasha, not on our leader Ataturk. You can answer anytime you want, but it surprises me you do not even know the so-called events claimed to have taken place before Turkey lol.
I'm not talking about Turkish Republic , I'm talking about the nation , and what Armenian republic was founded in 1920 that does not mean that there were no Armenians
Thanks for everyone contributing to this thread LeoSeo and Leet (Turkish Republic Representers) and Rentdn(Opening the thread) Well im a citizen of turkish republic i also lived and studied many other cultures all over the world "even france" Genocide whats the meaning ? "any one knows?" Gencide means : Genocide is the mass killing of a group of people "terms used in wikipedia". Did Turkey do a genocide on armenians in turkey ? "NO" But this doesnt mean people where killed who where armenians . Want to learn the story ? Here it is : Armenian civillians where atacking turkish towns in late history slaughtering turkish citizens. "So what the local goverment did?" They took an army and they forced armenian people to move out to the eastern borders of turkey. Many have died under the Weather conditions and also the conditions of people getting sick. "yes as i wrote many.."But no genocide.. This was not a genocide they made the occation by their self.. Yeap they died under those circumstances.. Im not accusing no one neither the turkish culture nor the armenians but there was no genocide.. There are rumours who say yes turkey did a genocide but you know what ?"its only rumours" The historians have proofs as above my fellow friends have written why dont they allow or miss see the Written historical proofs? This is a political game played over in the middle east. I wanted to remember everyone when france was accepting the genocide the turkish goverment spokesman said these words to france president. "If france accepts that turkey did a genocide on armenians will you arrest me if say no we didnt do a genocide" To remember france did a genocide in algeria in late history.. "Did turkey made a parlement accepting that France genocide over algeria ? No we didnt..." Some people say we dont have human rights ... But actually you know what ? We do.. America.. remember the history saying the white men killing Native Indian in massive amounts ? Did anyone say America did genocide on natives ? "no" Another american history case Remember when in the cival war was made for ? Men protecting blacks men who hate blacks.. Even today white american's act to affrican american people like pigs and dogs ? Is that a lie ? No.. So again this is my comment . Im not going to prove anything or fight or struggle with anyone... Let history show the truths not us... Thanks everyone..
Wow you need to learn history... Turkish nation is more then 1000 years old wanted to remember you this info
Yeap they died under those circumstances.. No not like this , they there unweaponed , they were raped , small childs was burned alive , Churches was destroyed and this might be called as " Genocide " and not war What about France - They just accept the truth AS IS and that makes honor to them
rentdn please dont make political talk if you say something you will have to prove it. France... they did a genocide and yes they accept that ? when where ? dont remember that they accept something like that maybe i dont know could you prove that and provide it in public... Again if anyone is going to write somethings its easy just write it . But if anyone is going to accuse someone then they have to prove it and accuse it..
Lol I know it and I'm telling the same it's your M8 who was telling that they are just 80th year old ,
Turkish nation is more then 1000 years old.. Citizen of Turkey is more then 80 years old maybe he wrote or expressed it wrongly What he ment is that Turkey did not do it. Turkey was installed after wards what your talking about... Genocide... even though its a wrong information... Not before or after turkey was installed no genocide happend "in my commentary.."
Thanks for your participation Alis. If one thinks properly he/she'd understand there's no point of discussing these. Armenian people lived within Ottoman lands for hundreds and hundreds of years in peace. And why such unpleasent events occur in a sudden? Ottoman did not know they were Armenians for those hundreds of years and suddenly realised they are and decided to kill them all? Of course not. It's mainly; when Ottoman was in trouble with the wars, Armenian citizens co-operated with French to backstab Ottoman in the ambition of a piece of land instead of defending their hometown. And some Armenian society supported them in terms of logistics, food, hide et cetera. So some their gangs were killed and those supporters were forced upon to move between locations. In war times, always unpleasent events occur, i'm sure many innocents died too from both sides. But was it genocide? You can understand it looking how many Armenians live in Turkey today(over a million) 1 of the top 5 countries most Armenians live in. Do you think they are the people who suddenly decided to Turkey after those events thinking "Look, Turks genociding us, let's go there and die, life sucks anyway!" Ofc not. They are mainly the grandsons of the Armenian people who were wise and decent enough not to backstab their hometown, so nothing happened to them. We live with them, i even had a classmate named Alen who is an Armenian. These lies are junk of some Armenian politicians and some imperial powers of the world, we still live in peace with Armenians, and only problems occur when you provoke people like this, whining on lies and calling them barbaric when you are defeated. Bottom line; you are simply defeated in a war. Live with it.
I said "Turkish Republic" which is founded by 1923. Your politic accusations are towards Turkish Republic to make them accept unexisting thing.
I see from your post that you are one of those kids Show me facts that Armenians committed a holocaust and not just talks that the government gives out just because they are afraid to accept it. is this turkey's history? yes IT IS. This image is related you Alis's thread about what happened also. The Genocide still continues. This is not a matter for arguing in a webmaster forum. This is a matter of fact, that many of you were touch to deny it, so you do, as you know how much damage it will bring to your country's economy. Concerning a post about Armenian minorities: huh, I think that you need to study who is Armenian in the world and you'll find how much power this small country has. Turkey has never been open to cooperation and clearing out the issue. Even in october when in one of Turkey's villages a grave was found with a lot of skeletons there, Turkey's officials kept it in secret for about a month, and it still is kept in secret. I can image how "open" you can be in talks. I am glad you had an Armenian friend. RentDN is not protecting anybody. He raised a question that is in current political life of the world. another this to NOT FORGET Hrant Dink the last victim of the Genocide
ludwig thanks for your comment. As i said. Nothing will change no genocide has been done "In my comment" so turkey will not accept the genocide that they didnt do. One question why should turkey be affriad about the genocide ? Its not big money to pay the families your know what else turkey could be scared ? Nothing perhaps.. Anyways im out of here its not our buisness to discuss this cause nothing will change.. American diplomats will decide The genocide situation but again turkey will not accept it Finally ? Same situation turkey does not accept the genocide. so nothing changes.. thanks for every1
Lol are you showing me how Armenian schoolboys are talented with photoshop or something? look at the copyrights lmao!! I explained you the matter, you can learn the history or keep on denying. I won't quote every word of yours, Turkish History Enstitute is open to whoever is willing to participate in investigations, unlike yours are. I did not say that little country is weak. They have a strong society mainly in France and US(L.A. mostly) to force politicians make decesions about history, which politicians know no jack about history anyways. Do you ever wonder why we do not? Because we are man enough to pursue our issues on our own. We don't need France or UK or US or any other countries politicians believe us. In fact there are a greater number of Turks all around the world comparing to Armenians which could do pretty much the same. We just don't see the need, who cares what US or France "politicians" think about Anatolian history? We certainly do not. Your accusations aim to seperate a land from Turkey, not like you are doing this for your grandparents or something. If you want a piece of land you come and get it, whining on lies ain't a method. About Hrant Dink, of course, wherever an Armenian dies it's genocide to you, some Armenians die for cancer and heart attack too, they are part of the genocide too. There are over a million Armenians in Turkey which simply stay because we threaten them not to leave lol. Whiny Whiny Whiny..