Will this be the most controversial thread ever? Directory Penalization

OK first off, I have been known to post a few controversial threads that get people talking. People generally like me for not being afraid to speak my mind, even if they don't agree with me, but I must say that I am scared to post this. I have decided that I will say something that I have thought for quite some time, and yet have kept my mouth closed for fear of being burned at the stake, but here goes nothing.

I am glad that Google has penalized all these directories!
I mean, yeah I wish it hadn't happened to rob, chris, dave, and jude (and all the others), but I am glad that it did happen nonetheless.
Here is why I am so glad it happened:

1. This will help to create a higher level of standards in the industry
2. It will help to stop the relentless creation of new directories
3. Directories will start to move away from only serving the submitter, and will aim to serve the end user
4. Directories will be forced to find new methods of traffic
5. The industry won't just be one big jumble of interlinking directories
6. Many directories will be forced towards niche directories
7. The over abundance of money in the industry will tighten up, forcing many directories to close, and those that stay open to work harder for their money.
8. The get-rich-quick will go find a new area to devastate and lay to ruin
9. I will never hear the annoying term QBC again
10. Noobs will stop posting garbage like "ZOMG I got a PR5 from submitting to directories"
11. Pagerank will be a valid tool again
12. Along with several other important factors that I can't think of at the moment

So honestly, I hope Google continues with the penalization, and I hope and pray that it wasn't just an "algo glitch", as I think this will make directories better in the long run.

I think Google is doing a great job of re-balancing the web. Homeostasis, getting back in balance, may the crap directories stop influencing the SERPs.

I guess all of those that were penalized and by Google along with the posse of cookie cutter directory fanatics will red rep me. But hey, I finally speaking my mind, go Google, keep penalizing until the industry learns a lesson and starts making content for the end user. I know that plenty of people will say "Directories will never be used for search" but then why do they exist? Google clearly says "Make pages for users, not for search engines." So if directories aren't for end users, then I hope that every single directory will be permanently banned.
End users are the most important and overlooked component to a directory, with Google's penalization I hope that all of you will be enlightened, and see that we MUST find ways of getting average people to use directories for search. Pagerank shouldn't be the goal of directories, so please let us be real with ourselves, directories that don't provide quality information to users should be banned and destroyed.

 

I run a directory (silverlineweb) and I agree with a few of your reasons...

Nice post...

 

Won't even make DP's top 100 on the "most controversial" list.

 

You'd be surprised, I know that plenty of members here will just chew me apart for being glad that Google is finally taking the action it should have taken a year ago.

 

Listen mate... I've noticed you just become veryyy active on these forum in the last couple of weeks or so.
This matter has been discussed and over discussed... why do you have to start again?
Do you really like to see people fighting and swearing around here? Do you really enjoy this sort of crappy subjects?

I've had enough reading the biggest stupidities on this subject...it is just about time to end the silly presumtions and to wait....wait...wait

 

So getting increasingly interested in a subject is a crime?
I have been posting a lot in the forum as of late, because I see how flawed the industry is.
Actually think my point is a different point, I haven't seen any threads where someone praised Google. I have seen a couple of people say that some directories deserved to be penalized, but for the most part everyone is too busy covering their asses to realize that Google is doing the right thing.

I hate seeing people fight, but I love to see someone post something that stirs up discussion that will hopefully lead towards directory owners changing the way they do business, and I don't think this is a crappy subject.

 

Like most of us you are a little bit right and a little bit wrong.

Serp's rely on backlinks. Google uses directories indirectly to feed users to the sites it lists. If the directory masters are doing the job they are supposed to directories could be very useful to Google. That is why we have every reason to ask the owner of Alive why he approves and lists MFA sites in his directory. By the way you carry a link to that very site in your signature.

 

Yes I know, it was paid for almost a year ago, I will remove it as soon as the year is over.

 

I feel you are trying a little too hard to be controversial, it appears forced. Also I don't think your topic is very original, just re-packaging the same thing. I would more interested in discussing this further when there are new developments.

I think your thread might have more impact when and if google ever confirms they actually did something other than tweak their algorithm.

A lot of the things you mentioned are big problems and the difficulty is that if there is some sort of penalty it is way to vague to have much of an impact except for a general disruption. I would much rather hear google say, 122 web directories have been penalized for doing xxx and xxx.

But it seems blogs and websites are effected too so it must be more of an algorithm type change than a focused penalty.

As I have stated many times before, I would be a lot more impressed if they put a dent in the MFA sites....those sites cause at least 20 times the damage directories do.

The better question is why google themselves list these sites, give them page rank and serve them ads??

 

It's not about that.I don't mind seeing someone licking google's *** You know these sort of threads will cause further silly discussions. Let's stop them and let's behave like mature people for Christ sake!

No one holds the thruth, no one knows for sure what's wrong so why bother?

 

Good enough. But why are you not challenging Alive and more importantly why is Alive not responding? Is it none of my business or should I make it my business?

 

Bobby, you are saying too much about directories

By directories we can find quality of a website and a quality of a directory

Directories together can gauge a quality of a website whereas a SE can't

I am just fine tuning my algo for directories

 

- I am guessing Chris has better things to do, like make money! I have been looking at the 'penalized directories' recent links and it seems submissions are still flowing in. I know for myself this is the one of the best weeks I have had in the past few months. Business might be down but it is all about weathering the good times and the bad.

 

And thats precisely whats wrong with this industry. That is precisely what has to change and change it will. Short term scam, long term accountability.

 

Guys grow up. Fighting wont solve anything. You cant control what google does. It happened and thats the bottom line. Now all we can do is find better ways cause its always survival of the fittest no matter which industry you belong to.

Such things happens and will continue to happen. Just move on and find new ways.

 

Nah! You missed the train....

Better luck next time.

 

I am not sure how it is forced, admittedly the title of the thread might is a little exaggerated. Also, either I haven't been reading this forum enough, or there just aren't any other posts that say what I say. Every post I see is just people whining about the penalization.
I actually like the mystery surrounding the penalizations, I would rather them not tell exactly what you must do to get un-penalized. That way people will go above and beyond to get their directories back.
The reason why Google doesn't deal with MFA sites, is because A. MFA is a loose term, there is no clear cut way to say that a site is made for adsense B. Google is making millions off of MFA sites C. They are very hard to detect via an algorithm (see point A.) and the sheer number of them makes a manual review pretty much useless.

Ha kissing ass to Google? I don't quite think so, had MSN or Yahoo penalized, I would be thanking them too. Also, I am against tons of speculation posts, and people saying that they know what the future holds, but if you read my post, I don't say anything about what will happen in the future. I am merely listing reasons why I shouldn't be seeing 1,000 posts from people whining about why the penalization is bad.

I haven't done any research on Alive, never submitted, and only been there about three times. To me, it is just another site trying to manipulate the SERPs while providing no value to end users.

Right you are

The title is just a tiny bit of an exaggeration, hoping to spark some discussion about the pros of the penalization from the opponents to the penalization.

 

As long as its not the fattest. I wouldn't have a problem with those turkeys if they squared up to face their responsibilities and acknowledge that there is a need to change. But they don't and they wont. They are just ducking, diving, whining occasionally and flying their true colours for all to see.

This is why we have a problem in this industry. We and I include myself in this, would rather sit back, observe and say nothing. But look at the mess a couple of wide boys have got us into. Google has done nothing wrong. We need to change the way we do things.

And this is one of the prize porkers in this pig pen

 

Just keep speaking blah blah without any reasoning.
There is a disease (a kind of anxiety disorder) named "Obsessive Compulsive Disorder" and i want to find information on it. Any directory you know (exclude Dmoz, yahoo and other corporates, consider penalized ones and others around DP) who can point me to good sites on the topic ????????? Google can. Its simple. click here . Moreover I see the highest quality websites on top. Wikipedia, government sites etc. You still think directories benefit end user ??? huh

There is a huge difference between Big Thinking, Positive Thinking, Smart Thinking and Foolishness.

 

workshop,

I can't imagine why you are not more popular around here. All you seem to do is bitch and moan and throw sh*t at people....people who have not even posted in this thread. I'm not sure what Chris and Rob did to make you so angry (sleep with your girlfriend? poo on your dog?), but you need to ratchet the bomb-throwing way down.