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Will Table Designs Die out?

Discussion in 'CSS' started by pr0xy122, May 20, 2007.

  1. #1
    Will Table Designs Die out and will CSS div lightweight designs take it over. Because Ive started learning DIV design and am wondering wether its still ok to practice my table skills or if I should try to keep focusing with divs and forget about table designing? :D
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    pr0xy122, May 20, 2007 IP
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    forumrating Notable Member

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    use of tables has already reduced, css will surely will take over, you can work on table and css both. new technlogies are really gonna keep coming , keep updated
     
    forumrating, May 20, 2007 IP
  3. diarmuid

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    #3
    As CSS gets a much more browser compatible website it does make sense to just use CSS instead of tables. Also, I seem to remember reading somewhere that in XHTML you can only use tables to display data, as in statistics and that type of thing, due to XML's influence. Though that may be totally wrong!

    Diarmuid
     
    diarmuid, May 20, 2007 IP
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    Tables designs are already dead, but the table tag is not. Tables should still be used to hold tabular data.
     
    luckybee, May 20, 2007 IP
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    #5
    CSS already took over the market.
     
    Respiro, May 20, 2007 IP
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    emilbus20 Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering this as well. Thansk for the answers guys. Good to know. I need to brush up on my css skeelz!!
     
    emilbus20, May 20, 2007 IP
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    Sepehr Peon

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    #7
    yes to me tables are dead too! everyone is looking for CSS and overall Web 2.0 technologies today! as luckybee said table design is already dead but yet there is the table tag!
    and beside that CSS has more features that you can use and if you want a good design and functioning site you have to use css with your tables design too so why not make it all CSS?!
     
    Sepehr, May 20, 2007 IP
  8. AdamSee

    AdamSee Well-Known Member

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    #8
    <table> is a html element, just like <div>, <li>, <body> and <h1> are. Table designs are going out, but the table tag will remain to display tabular data, naturally.
     
    AdamSee, May 21, 2007 IP
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    I think we, as designers, are being a bit optimistic about this. Tables won't stop being used in layouts for a very long time to come. The thing that will decide when tables stop being used is when automated design software like MS frontpage start using CSS in a way that is readilly accessible, and effective. That isn't likely to happen until MS browsers become more standards compliant which could be a very long time indeed.
     
    webukdesign, May 21, 2007 IP
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    gobbly2100 Banned

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    #10
    With XHTML you must use a CSS for it to validate correctly.
     
    gobbly2100, May 21, 2007 IP
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    #11
    Unfortunately, I still find it easier to design tables :(
     
    mirrorslap, May 21, 2007 IP
  12. pr0xy122

    pr0xy122 Peon

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    #12
    of course, tables will always be use as, well tables since thats what they were originally intended for.
     
    pr0xy122, May 21, 2007 IP
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    designcode Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Its been long time since it was dead. CSS based designs rules :)
     
    designcode, May 22, 2007 IP
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    #14
    tables are out n CSS is in.. CSS rules
     
    firefox911, May 22, 2007 IP
  15. Dan Schulz

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    #15
    I could just drag Tommy Olsson in here, but I'll save him the trouble.

    You do NOT need to use CSS to get XHTML to validate correctly. XHTML is a markup language, just like HTML is. You can (ab)use tables in XHTML just like you can in HTML and still have it validate.

    The main difference between HTML and XHTML is that HTML is based on SGML, whereas XHTML is an application of XML designed to work like HTML (in layman's terms anyway - and I do admit, I did get part of it wrong).

    The thing about XHTML though is that 99.995% of the people who use it aren't even using it properly, since it's being served as plain HTML (with some syntax errors). It's not better than HTML, nor is it any worse. It's just different, albeit more demanding with its rules.

    I suggest you read these before writing another line of XHTML code. Seriously.

    http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393445
    http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=428205
    http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320391
     
    Dan Schulz, May 22, 2007 IP
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    #16
    For as long as we have to jump through hoops and hacks just to get simple columnar layouts there are always going to be people using tables to get what they need done ASAP.
     
    liamvictor, May 22, 2007 IP
  17. Dan Schulz

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    #17
    The thing is, hoops and hacks (99.995% of the time) aren't even necessary. It's a lack of proper understanding of how HTML and CSS work inside the browsers that's the real problem.

    But that's another discussion best saved for another day (and another thread).
     
    Dan Schulz, May 22, 2007 IP
  18. Stefan

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    #18
    In my opinion, tables should've never existed. :p I suggest going to HTML/CSS as fast as possible. Tables in my opinion, have already died.
     
    Stefan, May 22, 2007 IP
  19. Dan Schulz

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    Tables are to be used for marking up tabular data, not laying out Web sites. They have their place, and thankfully the abuse of tables for the purpose of layout are quickly on their way out (now if only Joomla could realize that :mad: ).
     
    Dan Schulz, May 22, 2007 IP
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    yeap, its all css now :)
     
    bested, May 22, 2007 IP