Will sites banned on Google come back by themselves?

Discussion in 'Google' started by linkranker, Jul 12, 2007.

  1. #1
    I was just wondering if anybody knows the answer for to question:
    - If a site got banned on Google for getting to many high PR links too fast (more than five PR4,5,6 links daily), would the site get penalized temporarily or permanently? Would the webmaster of that site have to submit a re-inclusion request of it would come back automatically after 30 days for example?

    Thanks in advance!
     
    linkranker, Jul 12, 2007 IP
  2. godmode

    godmode Well-Known Member

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    #2
    you can try reinclusion request.
     
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  3. harryj

    harryj Active Member

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    If the site is new then it will move to google sandbox. Sandbox is a kind of warning for new sites. Is your site new to Google?
     
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  4. linkranker

    linkranker Active Member

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    The site was about 6 weeks old when got PR4 with the latest PR Update with over 3000 pages in the Google index. About a week later all the pages disappeared from the Google index. I believe that it happened because of wrong timing: I just sent too many high PR links in too fast. The site is about 3 months old and there are still no pages from my site included in the Google index...

    I was hoping that the pages will fall into the sandbox for 30 or maybe 60 days and come back by themselves. I'm not sure what to do about it...
     
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  5. sachin410

    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    One of my sites was reincluded in the index after 11 months. I never sent a reinclusion request for it.

    Try sending a reinclusion request. No harm in sending one.
     
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  6. godmode

    godmode Well-Known Member

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    may i know

    how you got 3000 pages in 6 weeks? Interesting stats there? You written all that content yourself?

    That might answer your question, why your site was banned in the first place.
     
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  7. netPH

    netPH Active Member

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    if not auto generated or user driven..

    I think having those many high pr BL for days is NOT the reason for the penalization or equal.

    If you feel that you're not doing anything wrong then just the development and SE promotion such as adding valuable content, ethical linkbuilding, publicity etc..

    I believe that if you continue to develop and promote your website for your audience then there shouldn't be any worries. Submit a reinclusion request, you continue to provide your visitors with useful content and let them (google) see that.

    But, if it's just another MFA generated through automation and that's for sure with dupe content then it's better to create a new one, on a new domain and apply development and SEO that you think is proper. You know what I mean. Google is very strict and I admit that I hate runnung along with those "policies".
     
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  8. ritadebock

    ritadebock Peon

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    6 weeks old site and 3000 pages in the Google index = Google thinks you are cheating.
    So google put your site in the sandbox. You probably have to wait a year (yes, this happens!) before your site get out of thes sandbox.

    you can of course try reinclusion request.
     
    ritadebock, Jul 13, 2007 IP
  9. totalmasala

    totalmasala Banned

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    i don't think they will be back themeselves........you should submit request to them to reinclude! but it is possible that they come back after long time! then may be google accepts them
     
    totalmasala, Jul 13, 2007 IP
  10. harryj

    harryj Active Member

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    I would suggest u to make a deep check of ur site for following things:
    Content Duplicacy
    Keyword stuffing
    NE black hat tricks
    Make unique title & descriptions for the pages
    No doorway pages
     
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  11. harryj

    harryj Active Member

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    And don't forget to bring the backlinks as earlier so that the google may understand that the links ur getting are natural because ur popular.

    Google likes the natural links so go for natural linking startegy. Don't bring one kind of links.
     
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  12. DLGx

    DLGx Active Member

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    No one reads reinclusion requests. It's just a way for them to make people shut up while they think that their reinclusion request is in some queue, but in reality any lifted penalty is automatically, and it can take over a year :p
     
    DLGx, Jul 13, 2007 IP
  13. TechEvangelist

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    Reinclusion requests do sometimes work. If you get the standard form letter response, then it probably wasn't viewed by anyone. I have helped a few sites get reincluded in G. From what I've seen, you don't get a respose if the reinclusion request was passed on to an engineer for review. Most of the time, you will just get the form letter response.

    I've seen reinclusions work in as little as a week or two. The issue with reinclusions is that you have to admit that you did something wrong and promise never to do it again.

    If the site was removed from G's index, it is not sandboxed. Sandboxed sites do show up in the index. They just won't rank well.

    Sites do recover naturally from being banned, but it can take some time. I suppose it is related to the nature of the violation.
     
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    I've got multiple sites penalized for some months and reinclusion requests sure aren't working for any of them, and I've never recieved any type of email response.
     
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    linkranker Active Member

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    Thanks for the info TechEvangelist!
    I didn't know that sandboxed sites simply rank lower, but still appear in the index.
    Thanks for clarifying that. Rep added!

    I will look into my site to find out what they did not like and send in a re-inclusion request as suggested.
     
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  16. linkranker

    linkranker Active Member

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    Weird eh?
    Maybe Google "due to the high volume of submitted re-inclusion requests" can only handle half the submissions. :) ...and maybe your request just fall into the 50% pile which won't ever get processed (or maybe only a year later).
     
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  17. kirby009

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    #17
    google what a piss off . people think they are banned sometime an not even close they just working on the wrong thinks.
     
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  18. TechEvangelist

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    That may still be consistent with what I said. You won't get a response from an engineer whether the site is reincluded or not.

    I think you now have to submit a reinclusion request through G's Webmaster Tools, which means you have to sign up. Reinclusion requests may be getting ignored if you are just e-mailing them.
     
    TechEvangelist, Jul 15, 2007 IP
  19. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    i have sent a reinclusion request nearly 4 months ago but it did not indexed yet. it may take so much time google to index it again
     
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  20. DLGx

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    Yeah I've submitted mine via google webmaster tools, no change at all....been over 2 months now, around 3 months total for the penalization. The affected sites are pretty dead, I don't even care for them anymore. Quality sites killed by Google.
     
    DLGx, Jul 15, 2007 IP