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Will Obama Raise Taxes on Working Class Americans? - Proof Please.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by GeorgeB., Oct 20, 2008.

  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #101
    And right after I made my comment, as always they repped me too. It's the bozo that posts the "retarted" and "retart" reps that's doing it btw.
     
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    Firegirl Peon

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    #102
    If everyone was able to easily afford coke, or say a 60 inch TV, what would be the incentive to strive for more? Isn't this kind of the same thing with stimulus packages and the government printing money out of thin air and handing it out to everyone? If you don't really have to work for it, then the value drops....
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #103
    The coke is an example that one of you guys brought up. I am more interested in health care,food and other basic necessaries. i did not say print more money. i said a progressive tax schedule would be good for economy
     
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  4. Firegirl

    Firegirl Peon

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    #104
    LOL, the trolls are running rampant today:

    Idiots with virtual balls....and I have no idea who's been giving out the retart reps although I have received a few of those as well.

    Anyways, I have noticed that the #15 search on Google today is for the site Obama is advertising in one of his commercials: taxcutfacts.org.

    Wonder who funds the site?
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #105
    I brought up the Coke example and used it to describe the democrats ideology as it concerns taxing, not consumption of a particular commodity.

    You're skimming again. A fair tax is the only thing that is good for the country and its tax payers. Anything less is unacceptable.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #106
    lol the word fair is hijacked by the pugs. there is nothing fair in the fair tax.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #107

    So you think I should pay more for a can of Coke because I make more than you?

    This is not exactly the kinda of change I'm looking for.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #108
    you should pay more if your real income[not imaginary- monopoly money is exempt] is more than 250k. we are looking forward to the necessary changes. you are just coming along for the ride.kicking and screaming as expected
     
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    damian.hoffman Peon

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    #109
    Since a flat tax isn't supported by either party, don't the Republicans want you to pay more for your Coke too?

    And for the record, I also think a flat tax with no deductions is the best tax option. Although I also support limited and temporary assistance for those on the lowest end of the wage scale. I'm thinking on the job skill training while working on community projects, with job placement assistance when completed.
     
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    Firegirl Peon

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    #110
    This doesn't make sense to me at all. This would basically make it so people who make 250k or more would have the same standard of living that the average American does. Why would I want to bother going through years of college, or like my boss did, work 16 hour days for years to build up his business, just so I can pay double or more for the same things average people can afford? I would work my ass twice as hard just to live the same as everyone else. Who the hell wants to do that? Who would really be living the American Dream then?

    Would I agree to work double the hours with the exact same pay? NO
    Would I agree to work the same hours with half the pay? NO

    Makes no sense to me....
     
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  11. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #111
    Why should a person be taxed more % wise because they are successful? 30 % hits both pretty hard. The rich are the working class and they are what makes the country economy a success.

    Why so bitter. The ones making 250k have just as much right to their income as the poor.

    I don't even mind the rich paying a small percentage more, however with that being said they pay too much as it is now and with Obama wanting to sock it to them, It will crush the economy. Carter economics does not work. That's why a flat tax with no deductions is the best plan.

    Like it or not their is no denying that the top earners do more to create jobs than the poor and middle class.


    Or the communist way



    Why should the rich be penalized for working hard and being a success? That make no sense
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #112
    I guess you don't know how a percentage based tax works. It takes a percentage of your total income, no deductions.

    Lets say the percentage is 10%

    You make $10,000 per year, you pay $1000 in tax
    I make $100,000 per year, I pay $10,000 per year in tax

    I paid more than you, but I made more than you. However, we both paid the same percentage rate. FAIR!



    No. They just say since I buy more Coke, I can deduct those purchases against my taxable income to help mitigate tax liability.

    In the end, I am not in favor of either tax plan. I like Huckabees tax plan.

    However, with McCain, he at least leaves things alone and does not raise my taxes. That we really do not need.

    This much we can agree on. Pizza has been a victim of the entitlement mentality for too long. He's far to used to getting something for nothing on the foot heals of those that earn an income. I can completely understand why he is so adamant about continuing the socialist mantra of the democratic party.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #113
    YOU HAVE TO PAY A LARGER PERCENTAGE IF YOU MAKE MORE THAN 250K. the bush tax break for the rich has to be stopped.It ruined the economy. what part of this you do not want to understand. once we stop the tax breaks for the rich then we can give a larger break to the middle class. this will improve the economy and then you will do more business and you make more money.
    I really think everything that bush has done has to be reversed
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #114
    All entitlements should be eliminated from the government. That is what local charities are for. Obama wanting to spend trillions on new programs when there are too many programs to fund now. God help the US after he is in office.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #115
    not bitter just clarifying it so people do not think it matters how they make the money. why didn't you complain when bush gave a tax break to the rich. That tax break is going to go away and a new and improved one is going to be implemented for the middle class to improve the economy. entitlement is also necessary. get over the pug economic philosophy it has been a total failure.
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #116
    Why? Why should I pay a larger percentage? I already pay more, much more. Why should the percentage be higher for someone that earns more and involuntarily contributes more? Explain!
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #117
    because bush started a tax break for people that were making more money in hope of improving the economy. This tax break did not work to the level that was expected. Obama is going to get rid of those tax breaks that did not work and he wants to give taxe breaks to the middle class to improve the economy. Just doing the same thing but from a different side. what do you have against trying to improve the economy
     
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  18. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #118
    I'm not sure it's the best tax system for the USA...I'm no expert.

    But I don't understand how people can say that a flat rate across the board tax % system ISN'T FAIR. :confused:
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #119
    fair tax
     
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    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #120
    Is that a joke? I don't get it.

    Stick to arguing about nonsense, don't try to get cute. ;)
     
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