Will Muslims take over America one day?

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  1. Aunti Anti Terrorist

    Aunti Anti Terrorist Peon

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    #21
    Most of the current religions will be gone within 100 years? Which ones will be gone and which ones will remain? What is your reasons for that?
     
    Aunti Anti Terrorist, Sep 16, 2007 IP
  2. Aunti Anti Terrorist

    Aunti Anti Terrorist Peon

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    #22
    I don't see those ones as "evidences for dying Islam" , do you have any evidence?
     
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    komirad Well-Known Member

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    #23
    When people learn more and when the world advances they will learn to think more logically and rationally.

    And by thinking more rationally and logically, they will have less "faith".

    And when people have more knowledge and understand science, they will know more scientific answers to questions which religions try to answer non scientifically.

    Hence the decline in religion.

    In the future, humans will create immortality for themselves. Do they really need a "God" then?

    The singularity is getting closer.
    Perhaps this documentary will interest you.
     
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    #24
    I've given enough. Why don't you post some "evidences" that it is not?
     
    TWalker, Sep 16, 2007 IP
  5. Aunti Anti Terrorist

    Aunti Anti Terrorist Peon

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    #25
    I haven't claim anything so I don't have to give evidence. You have claimed that Islam is dying, so you should give evidence. :)
     
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  6. Aunti Anti Terrorist

    Aunti Anti Terrorist Peon

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    #26
    Komirad if people will have less "faith" by passing the time and learning more about the science, so why 21 century Christians are more than 1000 years ago?
    Your comment is not logical. :)
     
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    #27

    You claim its not enough evidence. prove it.
     
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  8. Aunti Anti Terrorist

    Aunti Anti Terrorist Peon

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    #28
    lol you claimed it Islam is dying, so when you give your reson and you are told that it is not good reason, you should try to find a good reason. I don't have to give "evidence" to prove that your "evidence" is not good enough. If you have evidence to prove your claim I will admit and I will follow you. :)
     
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    #29
    I don't want you to follow me, I want you to prove it is not declining. If you cannot, then quit asking me to do the same.


    :)

    Did you complete the reading I gave you? If so tell me why it is not sufficient.
     
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  10. Aunti Anti Terrorist

    Aunti Anti Terrorist Peon

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    #30
    ok if you can not give evidence, it is ok. I quit asking evidence from you. Thanks for your time. take care. :)
     
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    #31
    Did you complete the reading I gave you? If not tell me why it is not sufficent.
     
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  12. komirad

    komirad Well-Known Member

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    #32
    1. Mass media and accessibility has increased the ease of spreading religion
    2. Population growing --
    1000 AD POPULATION 310 000 000
    2005 AD POPULATION 6 453 628 000
    2005 christian estimated. 2.1 billion
    3. Scientific revolution began not so long ago, only in the last 150 years, science really advance greatly

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion#Trends_in_adherence

    Moreover, the from the trend from what I have seen. People are getting less religious, except for the special few.

    Previously, in Europe, any arguments against Christianity is illegal or met with large resistance.
    The increase of Atheist and decline of Christianity in USA also shows that religions are declining.

    My comments are not illogical, therefore yours is.
     
    komirad, Sep 16, 2007 IP
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    #33
    i just gave example, coz the kind of question asked doesnt make much of sense. bush aint gonna let that happen, nor any leaders in future
     
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  14. Aunti Anti Terrorist

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    #34
    Yes I believe that the "truth" will win out ! :)
     
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    #35
    no islam will not one day become the religion of the US.
    and that is because most countries around the world will resort sooner or later to secularisation. it is the only way to run a country peacefully and fairly, with all religions free to practice if they so wish but no religion involved in the politics of that nation.
    most western governments are secular, turkey is secular - though with representation from islamic groups, and iraq will i believe have a secular government with representations from all major ethnic groups, despite the shi'ites calling for sharia law.
    within the next couple of hundred years many more countries will see the benefits of secularisation, and hopefully within a thousand years the whole world will be secular
     
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  16. Aunti Anti Terrorist

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    #36
    Thanks for your answer, but I like to remind all of us that we are just human being and our brain is not good enough to find out about future. I think we need to get help from the "revelation" of God to know about future. If God says something will happen in the future I will ask my brain to be silent. But this doesn't mean we should not use our brain, we should, but if it "seemes" to be conflict between "revelation" and "intelligence", we should believe the revelation about future.
     
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  17. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #37
    All religions will be gone, - ALL!!!

    That was written 1000's of years ago and contains some logic. God is live, etyernal live and he will bring us back to that point where we can enjoy eternal live with him.

    Why you think that the universe is constantly expanding? If god would be against life then there would be no need to expand the universe.

    We're as human are limited. Soiritually and physically but only until to the point when the creator will change that.

    Islam is not a religion but an ideology based on worldly desires.

    Moderate Islam is a subcurlture of terrorism and nothing else, nothing pure, clear or clean about it, no matter how hard one tries, it is bound to fail.
     
    Arnie, Sep 22, 2007 IP
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #38
    Only about 10% of our brains are used. Can you imagine what will happen when all faculties are developed again? Someone who's using more than 10 % is a genius, like Einstein with an estiated 12%.
     
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    #39
    They say that the 3rd world war will have religious basis, so time will tell
     
    Ireq, Sep 22, 2007 IP
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    #40
    Japan tried to defeat the US through war and only after vowing to peace did they make any advancements to world domination by becoming an economic super power. Muslims will never take over the US through war, but should they find peace and spend the wealth in oil they possess towards advancement rather than destruction then they may stand a chance.

    Just my $.02 worth.
     
    Roman, Sep 22, 2007 IP