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Will linking to page with lower PR hurt?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by jlryan, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. #1
    Do you think that linking to a page with lower PR will hurt your PR? Is it because the PR bleeds to the lower page? What effect does this have on your rankings, if any?

    Just curious...
     
    jlryan, Aug 2, 2007 IP
  2. Nystul

    Nystul Well-Known Member

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    You link for the sake of providing information to your readers.

    PR should be the last concern when you link out.
     
    Nystul, Aug 2, 2007 IP
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    zangief Well-Known Member

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    If it is not a linkfarm you won't have problems otherwise noone will link and the authority sites linking to low pr sites would suffer from it.
     
    zangief, Aug 2, 2007 IP
  4. qazu

    qazu Well-Known Member

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    No it won't. You do not bleed PR to the external pages you link to. You only bleed PR to internal pages tha you link to in your domain.
     
    qazu, Aug 2, 2007 IP
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    coolramiz Banned

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    #5
    no your pr will not affect at all.. if it was then how can lower pr site wil link to high pr site
     
    coolramiz, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  6. Warkot

    Warkot Peon

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    No. It will never hurt your PR. Anyone who's telling you otherwise is selling something ;)

    Warkot
     
    Warkot, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  7. trichnosis

    trichnosis Prominent Member

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    pr will pass from high pr web pages to low pr web pages. because of this, if you link to a page which low pr, your pr will decrease
     
    trichnosis, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  8. Warkot

    Warkot Peon

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    #8
    I have to disagree.

    PR is only affected by incoming links. PR is not affected by outbound links, and that's all there is to it, really.

    So other matters aside (like linking to bad neighborhood etc) your PR will NOT decrease or "leak" through outbound links. A page's PR is shared between all other links on a page, but that's a different story, and anyway the PR of the page in question is never affected by this.

    Just google for Google patents/Google PR formula for proof. The PR formula makes it crystal clear your PR is not affected by outgoing links, ever.

    Warkot
     
    Warkot, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  9. qazu

    qazu Well-Known Member

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    That's quite true but only for internal pages. This is how your internal pages gets PR. But your PR doesn't pass to external pages.
     
    qazu, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  10. Warkot

    Warkot Peon

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    Exactly. This does not affect the PR of the page with a link.

    Warkot
     
    Warkot, Aug 3, 2007 IP
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    pedigreechump6 Active Member

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    Ok so I get you so far, but what about gaining links off of of a PR page with many outbound links. Does mean the PR is spread evenly between the outbound links?

    Or are you saying that PR does not pass externally?
     
    pedigreechump6, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  12. qazu

    qazu Well-Known Member

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    Your PR does not pass externally. Google determines how much PR an external link will get based on relevancy and number of outbound links, etc. It does not take your PR and pass it among those outbound links.
     
    qazu, Aug 3, 2007 IP
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    t2000q Prominent Member

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    #13
    no it will not do any harm
     
    t2000q, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  14. Warkot

    Warkot Peon

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    Of course it does. I got your previous post wrong.

    Warkot
     
    Warkot, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  15. Warkot

    Warkot Peon

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    #15
    Yes. PR is passed evenly to ALL outbound links (internal AND external) on a page. So if www.some-site.com offers you to buy a link from them on page X which is PR5, and this page X has 10 other links (internal AND external, doesn't matter), the PR of page X will be spread evenly between 11 links, including your own. So the ideal -- in terms of PR -- link you can get is from a PR10 page that has no outbound links other than yours ;)

    BUT: This doesn't mean page X will "leak" PR, or that the PR of page X will decrease. The PR value of page X (5 in our example) does not depend on how many outbound links it has. Its PR value ONLY depends on INBOUND links.

    Of course PR is passed externally.

    Warkot

    PS: How much PR is passed to you is defined in the Google PR formula:

    ( The PR of the page with your link * 0.85 ) / number of outbound links on this page

    Example: You wanna know how much PR you'll get by getting a link from some-site.com, which has a PR of 6, and has only 12 outbound links on its homepage (external and internal.)

    Your PR gain is: ( 6 * 0.85 ) / 12 = 0.425

    If your site is PR2, roughly 2 links that get you 0.425 PR (like the one in our example) will get you to PR3.

    This is how the original PR formula works with Google. Of course, there are many other factors that Google takes into account when calculating PR. Such as website age, if the site is a hub, etc etc. but the basics are in the above formula.
     
    Warkot, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  16. bwtm77

    bwtm77 Active Member

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    No. I don't think a low PR link partner going to hurt your site PR. The only thing you may concern about, is the quality content of the site you want to exchange links with. You may also research to know with which site that site links with. If you have a computer related site for example, it may be good to mainly link with a computer related site. You may avoid to link with illegal or perverse site like porn sites if your site is not related to it.
     
    bwtm77, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  17. qazu

    qazu Well-Known Member

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    Is it? I think you got it wrong mate.
     
    qazu, Aug 4, 2007 IP
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    jashan1344 Banned

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    #18
    No it wouldn't at all hurt ur rankings unless the site is penalised or banned by Google. If you don't link out, how do you think new sites will grow?

    Moreover, linking out is a good thing. Just don't overdo it.
     
    jashan1344, Aug 4, 2007 IP
  19. Warkot

    Warkot Peon

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    Can you back it up with anything else other than "you got it wrong"? ;)

    Warkot
     
    Warkot, Aug 4, 2007 IP
  20. William

    William Well-Known Member

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    #20
    Warkot is right in. Pr is passed through links but it doesn't matter if you link to a site with high or low pr. The pr your site pass on through the link will stay the same.

    By linking out you do however send pr from your site that without the link to another site would be passed down to your subpages and potentially back to the main page again since the sub pages link to the main page.
     
    William, Aug 5, 2007 IP