Will India forfeit Kashmir to Islamic separatist movements?

Well last few years suggested that terror in Kashmir is decreased by some points and now visitors comming Srinagar once again. Also local markets are active now and running late night till 10 PM. I seen it 8 months ago and I feel very secure over their.

Both country now working on solution, although I know there will be no solution but now life in kashmir is easir then before. I can't find much border tensions over there during visit. India is concentrating on growing their economies while Pakistan concentrating to establish a good goverment and both country want to peace in Kashmir vally. They taken few good steps for solution.

 

Pakistan is not too stable. India giving up its national sovereignty will cause the muslim insurgencies generated in Pakistan to spread. Kasmir is a line in the sand.

 

Claims from three countries??? Kashmir is a part of India. Both China and Pakistan have managed to occupy a slice of it through unlawful means. And China is not just concentrating on growing its economy. It even claims that Arunachal Pradesh, a state in the Northeastern border of India, belongs to them. Pakistan claims that Kashmir is theirs.

Simply put, this is what happens when you have a spineless, cowardly, pseudo secular, bottom feeding government in place. God save India.

 

Yes you are right!

I know this problem between India, China and Paksitan will never be solved unless something going wrong. It almost 61 years of problem but no solution yet.

I am sure India will never surrender a state to other country since India is democratic country.

 

They don't have to surrender. They've simply alienated the state from the rest of the country. FYI, Shariat Law has been implemented in Kashmir. Can you imagine something like this happening in the US or any other western country for that matter? In a secular country like India, one state has implemented Muslim personal law. I mean, how fucked up can things get?

 

There is no Sharia law in Kashmir. The Laws are based on the Indian Penal Code. Kashmir Valley and Jammu are still under Indian Jurisdiction.

Contentedge, if you claim there is sharia in Kashmir, please give us some good sources to back up your claims.

 

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/feb/09mukhtar.htm

check it out

 

Its only on the laws formed by Muslim Personal Law Board, in accordance of the Indian Penal Code. These laws are prevalent across the entire country. Why should Kashmir have different laws?

 

How does that work? India has one law for Indians and another for Muslims?

"All Muslims should be governed by Shariat law or Muslim Law as is applicable in the rest of the country."

 

A few laws pertaining to marriage, divorce and inheritance are different for Muslims. All other laws are the same.

 

this is true
and as far as i know in kashmir case it was an independent state after aug 15 but it was not forced to be a part of india.

there was a king who ruled the whole J & K land and according to my fullest knowledge the people of kashmir wanted the king to be out and to be a part of india

later after some protest and drama i think there was a treaty and the king gave over kashmir to india to fullfill the peoples demand.

check this out

HENCE KASHMIR WAS A PART OF INDIA COZ ITS OWN PEOPLE WANTED IT TO BE A PART OF INDIA

 

My point is very simple. If you're part of a secular country, then you better fucking follow the rules and be a part of the secular country. If you think your religious laws are important, go to a country which is governed by your religious laws. End of story.

But then, most of the Indian politicians are so badly fucked up that they can't even think of enforcing something called uniform civil code to put a full stop to these issues. Basically, they lack something which is so important in a man's anatomy. What do you call that? Ah, yes, here goes. BALLS.

 

We have THE HINDU MARRIAGE ACT, 1955, for Hindus.

And THE MUSLIM PERSONAL LAW, 1937, for Muslims.

There are different laws for different religions. The Uniform Civil Code is a myth. Check out he different laws for different religious groups in India.

Custody - Hindu, Muslim, Christian & Parsi Laws

Guardianship - Hindu, Muslim, Christian & Parsi Laws

Maintenance - Hindu, Muslim, Christian And Parsi Laws

Adoption - Hindu, Muslim, Christian And Parsi Laws

This proves that there is no special treatment given to Muslims in particular. India is a diverse country, and needs diverse family laws, in accordance to the customs and religious obligations.

There is an interesting paper by Dr. Purushottam Bilimoria titled "Muslim Personal Law in India:

Colonial Legacy and Current Debates"[/B]

There is no Sharia law in India, or rather anywhere in the world.

 

Did you check out the link I gave you?

The Indian constitution was framed to accommodate different religious and ethnic groups, no doubt. But what is the need to implement Muslim Personal Law when you have a constitution which respects your religious feelings? My question is this - If Narendra Modi implemented Manu Smriti in Gujarat, would you people have reacted the same way?

 

India is a Constitutional Republic. If implementation of Manu Smriti does not endanger may own rights then I have no problem with it. Just like Muslim Personal Law does not affect you, or Hindu Personal Law won't affect me. We have our rights guaranteed by the Constitution of India.

 

I'm not convinced. Hindus and Muslims will never be treated the same under Shariat and Brahmins and Dalits will never be treated the same under Manu Smriti. It's plain simple. We don't need any religion-specific law in India. Whatever we have in our constitution already is enough to accommodate people of different faiths.

On a different note, isn't it surprising that there is no mainstream coverage of the Muslim Personal Law being implemented in Kashmir? No hot debates, no protests, nothing at all. And what happened when Indians were asked to sing 'Vande Mataram'? Muslims opposed it and it immediately became huge news all over the country.

My problem is this - when someone does something which is remotely offensive to Islam, it becomes a huge issue in India. But whenever it's the other way around, we don't see that kind of reaction from the media.

Such blatant hypocrisy.

I'm not a supporter of Hindutva or any other religious stuff, but what's happening in India is bad.

 

Maybe you have a point. We don't need to divide ourselves into religions and castes. We have to be Indians first, all equal under the law. Sounds good. But is impracticle.

Indians are emotional people. They have extremely strong bonds with their traditions, with their religion, with their languages... we see it everyday. Be it any religion, Hindu, Muslim or Sikh, be it any caste, Brahmin, Jat, or Dalits. People there need religion in their daily life. It is not optional. The politicians realize this. That is why, we are constantly reminded that all Indians are not equal. This trick is used to inflame passions across the country, so that the politicians can keep playing this game...