Will Google penalize 2 identical sites

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Julia-IT-Inventors, Sep 23, 2005.

  1. #1
    There is one web site that gets visitors from Adsense/Adwords, and there is another site with content fully identical to the first one, that will be promoted by link exchange, articles, etc.

    Will this situation bring a problem? It will be 100% dupclicated content, and the second site is just launched, it's too young and has no PR, backlinks and not indexed by G.

    The sites owner wants however to have both them online, the first will get visitors from pay per click until the second gets decent positions in G. and other SEs and starts brings good traffic. But he doesn't want to remake content.

    Your opinion?
    Thanks.
     
    Julia-IT-Inventors, Sep 23, 2005 IP
  2. GuyFromChicago

    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

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    #2
    Why not just use one site?

    To answer your question though, yes, there will be issues with duplicate content.
     
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    Yes, if they both end up being indexed, you should get penalized. Maybe even banned for a while.
     
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    you shouldn't get banned.. but what will probably happen is that the SE's will choose one site to list and drop the other into its supplemental index. either use 1 site or creat unique content for each.
     
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  5. Julia-IT-Inventors

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    thanks! I think the same but the client wants the things as he wants :) Ok, will go to explain it to him again...
     
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  6. Julia-IT-Inventors

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    more info - the first site, which gets traffic from G.pay per click, has no IBLs in Google, MSN, Yahoo, and so on, PR 0, and it is not indexed by G. Does it give any chance for the second site?
     
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    If the only access to the first site is from adwords then it gives the second site a much better chance of being the primary site for each page.

    Although once a site is out there you can't full control how and when it is accessed.
     
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    As far my experience with Google goes the search engine will crawl & display pages of both the sites. Pages which are created/crawled later are then manually removed by Google (not sure if this is the general practice but yes I have seen it happen i.e today you se 800 pages crawled & tomm you might find just 1)
     
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    Ignore whatever someone said about being banned for duplicate content - you won't. Most likely one of the sites will end up in the supplemental index.

    The only way to ensure that the "first site" won't be indexed is disallow Google or any other bot from indexing it. When you start an Adwords campaign eventually someone will link to the target site and it will get indexed unless you specifically disallow it.

    If you completely block the first site from being indexed you won't face the dup content issues - Google will only know about one site using the content.

    I honestly don't understand though what the benefit is to having two sites - one for PPC and one for organic traffic. I would send everyone to the same place - ppc or otherwise. Any decent analytics package will allow you break out paid vs. organic traffic.

    Like you said though....if the client is dead set on it not much you can do besides make suggestions and see if any of them stick.

    Good luck:D
     
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    you want to use adwors for one and optimize the second one. why don't you do it the same site :confused:
     
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    JUst use robots.txt on the adsense/adwords page.
     
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    YES!!! This is an idea! I will exclude all robots from the first site, now it's not indexed at all. Does it 100% guarantee ? Will disallow in robot.txt "scare away" all robots? Sorry, maybe it's silly question but I've never dealed with it before.
     
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    I would do it for MY sites :)
    just talked to the client. He wants this because doesn't understand difference between paid listings and regular one and wants to see "real results of promotion work"
    Trying to explain it to him.
     
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    Just search the forum or web for info blocking bots with the robots.txt file. I've personally never had a reason to completely block a site so I haven't spent much time researching it. Good luck:)

    Edit:
    Good analytics packages will be able to break out paid vs organic traffic.
     
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    do another thing
    for the site advertised on adwords, block googlebot to crawl the website
    for other one let the things happen as usual
     
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    thank you all! I like this forum more and more each day :)
     
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