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Will flash be dead ?

Discussion in 'HTML & Website Design' started by Charismatic_Verma, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. #1
    I heard about lot of people saying that "flash will be dead due to html5". Is this statement justified ?
    SEMrush
     
    Charismatic_Verma, Jul 8, 2010 IP
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  2. drhowarddrfine

    drhowarddrfine Peon

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    Not for quite a while but, once all the elements of HTML5 are in place and more stable, Flash might see more limited usage since the HTML5 tech is built in to the browser, might be faster, uses less memory, and developers don't need to learn another language to use it. Plus, Flash is proprietary. But this will take a number of years before it would become a minor player. However, Flash doesn't run on Apple products, runs poorly on *nix/BSD, and mobile devices may be glad to see flash go away.
     
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    Flash will always be around it seems but HTML5 sounds exciting because of its drag and drop that you see mostly in flash.
     
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    I don't think many serious web developers use Flash these days anyway, except for Flash games it's better to do effects using Javascript as it has better compatibiility
     
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    subdivisions Well-Known Member

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    Yes. iDevices don't support it, and Google can't index it.
     
    subdivisions, Jul 8, 2010 IP
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    SalmanAbbas007 Peon

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    lol are you krazy what will HTML5 get?? will it have effects animations etc at a very low size nope never
     
    SalmanAbbas007, Jul 9, 2010 IP
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    With powerful actionscript , flash may be die 'hard' ....

    Ked
     
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    If flash dies then half of Adobe dies along with it. lol.
     
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    Another person who doesn't know what they're talking about. All of that available in HTML5 now.
     
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    RaPeRbOy Active Member

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    Will die soon, but not now
     
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    Yeah, if you're planning on future-proofing, go with JQuery.
     
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    No, its absolutely not justified. For all the reasons I keep mentioning..

    http://disqus.com/egfx/
     
    Ilya, Jul 10, 2010 IP
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    I hope it dies....sincerely
     
    digital29, Jul 13, 2010 IP
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    http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
    this is funny.

    "Third, there’s reliability, security and performance.

    Symantec recently highlighted Flash for having one of the worst security records in 2009. We also know first hand that Flash is the number one reason Macs crash. We have been working with Adobe to fix these problems, but they have persisted for several years now. We don’t want to reduce the reliability and security of our iPhones, iPods and iPads by adding Flash."

    Yes, trust Symantec...The company whos security suite is fully "closed". Their software mostly says: "hey! u got a virus...oh crap they havent gave me new definitions for it so i cant touch it. sorry my bad."

    Well If my PC wasn't supporting flash it would crash too. Yes working with a company is always one sided as it means you tell them to fix it, but dont do anything yourself.

    I like html5 and all, but you don't have to make ignorant comments to promote it. I for one believe that when html5 can do exactly everything that flash can do, it will still slow the comp down. wow maybe a 2megabytes and 80mhz faster than flash.

    Languages/software all start the same way, fast as a fart at first, but add more features and it bogs down to near constipation. ie. flash, java, javascript, firefox, IE, opera, windows, now osx, even some flavors of linux. The list goes on.

    tl;dr: so yeah flash may die off. but eventually we'll all be cussing about html5. just like we do jQuery and flash.
     
    Firejerm, Jul 14, 2010 IP
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    if flash dies what about you tube website
     
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    Flash won't die, it will evolve. But when and how? That is the question. Behemoths in the industry are battling things out and the outcome of those battles will define the future of Flash.

    Hank Castello, Compusolver.com
     
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    youtube sites can pull off the same thing with simple html5. Their already getting ready for it. notice the layout change recently? yeah, thats the only advantage of flash so far. its easier to align things the way you want it. If only wysiwyg editors will let you drag and drop while coding in html5 then it would be easier.

    Also would php support these new features? I mean if i got a cool html5 dependant coded theme and i wanted it in WP, would php support it? Something else to think about too.
     
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    Adobe need to pull their finger out. Apple want it killed badly. :)
     
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    PHP is server-side code. It will present whatever client-side content and code you want. HTML5 or really, HTML anything, is all client-side.

    - Hank Castello, CompuSolver.com
     
    compusolver, Jul 14, 2010 IP