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Will '3D' Revive The Domain Industry - 3D Domain Names (?)

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by Hotelsex, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. AdamFL

    AdamFL Well-Known Member

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    #2901
    Nice this thread is changing to a SEO thread ;p IMO .COMs rank better than .COs.
     
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  2. Vcize

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    Who the heck cares what the search traffic is now? The whole point in this thread is to find domains that are going to have people searching it two years from now. Any EMD for a high search volume KW is long gone already. His point was that someone bought a domain like 3ddigitaltelevision thinking that two years from now "3d digital television" or at least the "3d television" part of it would be a high search volume KW, and at that point someone would pay for the rankings bonus that having those keywords in the domain provided. If that ranking bonus is gone entirely by then, then obviously that domain is worthless too as it's not in any way brandable.

    Obviously links are the biggest part of SEO. But if people didn't care about keyword rich domain names then you wouldn't see them in the high demand that they are now. There's no doubt that, outside of high competition keywords, EMDs give (or have given) a huge SERP boost. 20% off the top is pretty freaking nice head start.
     
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  3. Hotelsex

    Hotelsex Peon

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    i know things change (see "Google Publicly Accuses Bing Of Stealing Search Results")... but this really wasn't that long ago: June 8th, 2010
    Originally published by SEOmoz.org

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    Google vs. Bing: Correlation Analysis of Ranking Elements
    Posted by randfish to Alternative Search Sources


    Understanding Negative Correlation

    In the research below, you'll see a few data points where the correlation is actually negative, meaning that when we saw the element, it tended to predict lower placement in the results, rather than higher. For example:


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    The data for URL length shows that longer URLs are negatively correlated with ranking well. This isn't particularly shocking, and it probably iswise to limit the length of our URLs if we want to perform well in the engines. However, the second data point on .com TLD extensions shouldn't necessarily suggest that using .com as your top-level domain extension will actually negatively affect your rankings, but merely that all other things being equal, .com domains didn't perform as well in the dataset we observed as other domain extensions.

    As we go through each set below, we'll try to explain our thinking, but certainly invite you to draw your own conclusions from the data.

    As we've seen in the past, when more sophisticated ranking models are introduced, using machine learning against the search results, we often find that previously negative correlations turn out to be positive (or neutral) ranking factors.

    That's it! Let's dive into the data.


    Query Matching in the Domain Name

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    Our interpretation and conclusions:

    * Exact match domains appear to continue their powerful level of influence in both search engines, though I think many SEOs will be surprised to see Google actually has a higher correlation with ranking exact match domains higher (when they appear on page 1 of the results) than Bing.
    * Hyphenated exact matches certainly appear to be less influential, though they're more frequent (Google: 271 results contained these vs. Bing: 890)
    * Just having keywords in the domain name has substantive positive correlation (Thus, for example, if I wanted to rank for the word "dog," the domain mydog.com would fit with this correlation point)



    Exact Match Domains by TLD Extension


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    Our interpretation and conclusions:

    * If you're aiming for exact match, a .com extension is the way to go. Others aren't nearly as well correlated.
    * Bing does seem to appreciate non-dot-com exact matches more than Google, though not tremendously (especially in the case of .org)





    there's a lot more if you follow the provided link above
    great stuff in here

    i hope this helps give a better understanding of exact match domains :)
     
    Hotelsex, Feb 15, 2011 IP
  4. Hotelsex

    Hotelsex Peon

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    #2904
    We're now less than 100 posts away from 3,000 everybody!!! That's a BOATLOAD of 3d talk!!! :)

    Would love to know what the DP record is for most posts in one thread.
    Can a mod or dp faithful provide this info? (Just curious)
     
    Hotelsex, Feb 15, 2011 IP
  5. Vcize

    Vcize Member

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    #2905
    As someone with a stats degree, that seomoz comparison is a horrible farce. It's only testing correlation, not causation.
     
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    tattoos Prominent Member

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    #2906
    Not exactly sure what the record is, but this thread is not even close to what some threads get to. EG: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=647224&page=392 EDIT: Check out this whopper http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=343767&page=734

    Cheers
    James
     
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  7. AdamFL

    AdamFL Well-Known Member

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    #2907
    Well I think that this thread should be sticky, at least for now.
     
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    holographics Peon

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    #2908
    To you it may be obvious links are the biggest SEO factor, to the person I addressed the comment it wasn't (even though SEO is his job!?). I made the comment about his examples because his examples were misleading. He was arguing that domainers have made a farcical mess of the net by putting a quantity of low quality sites out there (which Google is now punishing). Fair enough. His examples, however, are misleading: he was using as proof that 3dtv.co.uk doesn't rank highly on merit of the domain alone - even though this domain is up against competition from some very big players, with 1000s times more links. The other example is equally misleading, because he uses a DN that no one would ever search for. Seriously, who is going to type out d-i-g-i-t-a-l-t-e-l-e-v-i-s-i-o-n? No one. The "digital" already kills it. let alone spelling out TV. I'm just saying, if you are going to place a post on a forum where everyone is discussing the domains they have registered, in which you state that by doing so we are all destroying the net, fine. If you are going to make outlandish arguments about the domain name always and still being the biggest factor, fine. Just put the energy into supplying some intelligent examples that people can actually get something out of. Alls I'm saying. Don't mean to offend any of y'all - I just call bs on that mess.

     
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  9. VisualDream

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    #2909
    This thread has come along way and 3D is here to stay

     
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    holographics Peon

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    #2911
    I'm near to fixing my car..just now needing a extra part..then shes back on the road

    If anyone wants a stunning 3D domain for there portfolio

    drop me a pm and see if we can workout a deal. all reseller prices

    Thanks guys..means a lot to get my car running again.
     
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  12. Vcize

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    Dude what the heck is wrong with your car that someone already bought a domain for $xxxx from you, and it looks like people have bought off dozens of others as well, and you STILL don't have enough to fix it.

    This had better be like an Audi R8 or something if you're dropping that much on repairs.
     
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    Erm turbos and a intercooler are not a cheap repair :(
     
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    #2914
    anyone with a 3d related site want to link exchange ?
     
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    cobraghostship Peon

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    Most 3d products will be non-existant in a few years due to poor sales. I wish 3d was a stock so I could short it.
     
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    Tegrov Peon

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    @ Vcize

    :)..That just cracked me up!

    @ VisualDream, Sorry mate I was also wandering what car you have!
     
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    cobraghostship Peon

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    Please explain why your like the only one on this thread whos 3d domains all seem to sell for lots of money? Thanks
     
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    Tegrov >> something very fast :)

    Cobra >> I've been in this business a very long time :)
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Just wanted to update. The site has not been hurt at all by G, in fact, G seems to love it. I've done nothing since putting it up. It has generated quite a few sales (more than enough to cover the domain cost many times over) and has a few thousand pages indexed by G. I think around 50,000+ pages now.

    Hotelsex: To be honest, I am a little surprised how easily G seems to eat this affiliate site and others I have right up. This is pure datafeed type content with nothing really special about it. I would have thought, like you, that is would not being doing so well.

    I was inclined to "park" them myself and see what they could do. I have other random 3d names that also convert using same type site so for me this seem like a simple way to get content, indexed pages, and sales to cover domain costs and in many cases a tidy profit.
     
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    If your that confident, then short all the 3D panel makers. Go on, put your money where your mouth is. I dare ya.

    Anyway, in other news

    "SEOUL, Feb 16 (Reuters) - South Korea's LG Electronics Inc , the world's No.2 TV manufacturer, said on Wednesday that it aims to sell 5 million 3D televisions in 2011, as it seeks to return to profit with fatter-margin products.

    Its TV division swung into a loss last quarter, hit by weaker-than-expected consumer demand for TVs and price competitions from the likes of Sony Corp and Panasonic .

    In its boldest yet move to challenge bigger rival Samsung , LG introduced on Wednesday a 3D TV set using a new display, and said it would entirely migrate into the technology from the third quarter, ditching the current mainstay technology in the burgeoning TV segment.

    LG said the new technology, called film patterned retarder (FPR), will address consumer concerns over blurry and flickering images that previous 3D technology gained notoriety for, and the glasses will be two to three times lighter than previous bulky and special eyewear.

    Eyewear is close to normal sunglasses and costs around only $10, as it is free of signal chips, chargers or power switches and 3D processing technology is mainly embedded in the TV set, LG said.

    "It's the second-generation 3D technology and the market is evolving to this new generation. We are confident that this technology will lead the market and we'll aggressively push for FPR," Havis Kwon, head of LG's home entertainment division, told reporters.
    "

    Cheers
    James
     
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