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Why When a Muslim Defends his Land against Isreal or US... is considered a Terrorist?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by -ME-, Dec 28, 2008.

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    Why When a Muslim Defends his Land against Isreal or US... is considered a Terrorist?

    For example, Hizbullah & Hamas is considered a terrorist organization in American and Isreali thoughts.

    Cant we ask ourselves a small tiny question..

    Why Hizbullah and Hamas got established?
     
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    Lexiseek Banned

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    By "defending your land" you mean shooting missiles and blowing up buses.

    Why can't Israel defend herself by blowing up the entire Gaza strip?

    Israel should have the right to defend her borders by killing anyone who seeks to destroy them.

    It's not the question of whether they're allowed to fight or not. It's the tactics. That's a simple point that all of you terrorist supporters seem to ignore. It's the tactics that have Hamas and Hezbollah labeled as terrorist groups.
     
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    Why do u only see Isreal side? have a look what is happening on the other side.

    Becuase opening one eye will show you one side!
     
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    Lexiseek Banned

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    Dude, I don't just look at one side. I'm looking at both sides. If Hamas has the right to fire rockets at Israel, then Israel has the right to use whatever technology they want to destroy as many people in Gaza as they want.

    If Hamas had better weapons, they would undoubtedly cause more damage than they do with their ridiculous missiles.

    It's war. Why do you cry when Israel responds to missile attacks with violence? You couldn't have possible expected any other results. You really think they're going to say: "Your Qassim rockets have scared us, here's the olive gardens we stole in 1948"?

    I doubt it.
     
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    'freedom fighters' fight the military of the other side to save lives. Terrorist organizations spread propaganda, hatred, and shoot civilians to prove their point.

    How did Hamas and Hizbullah get established? You first need to think about how the whole 'Anti-Israeli' crap established, and that was in the 20s and 30s, before Israel was even established. At that time, a massive amount of Jews immigrated to Israel. At first, everything was alright. The Jews bought land from the Arabs, worked with them and made a nice living together. Then, when the Jews became bigger, the Arabs thought that they no longer need them at Israel and that they should leave. Fights started. This lead to the Jews and Arabs having conflicts with the British, who ruled Israel at the time, saying that they prefer side X instead of their side.

    British leaders got killed by both sides (There was even a specific time when a lot of Arabs united together, killed a lot of Jews, raided British police stations and destroyed oil piplenes), Arabic leaders got killed by the Jews, then the whole 'Anti-Jew' thing became global because the Arabic leaders encouraged all Arabs around the globe to support the Arabs in Israel, and the rest is history: A jewish country, wars, truces, more wars and so on.

    Now instead of thinking which side punched the other side first, how about we start thinking about how we solve this messy situation?
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    IMHO Muslims defending their Country or Land against Invaders be they Israel or Americans are not terrorists but loyal citizens defending their motherland.

    But shooting missiles at another country's cities aren't considered defending their motherland. They are aptly named terrorists because they knew that the other side will retailiate and the ones who suffer most will be their fellow countrymen.



     
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    The 3 replies above this post. has one answer.

    Why is hamas firing rockets? or why is hamas established?
     
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    There you go.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Whatever reason why what when how, there is no reason to fire inaccurate rockets which are most likely to killed innocent civilians in another country.


     
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    why dont you see inaccurate rocket firing on gaza side?

    do u remember this story?

    http://www.pac-usa.org/mohammad_aldurra.htm
     
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    Just a thought


    If Hamas Shoots Missiles And Kill people they are considered terrorist then when Israel attacks and kills innocent people shouldnt it be considered as terrorist too ???

    Why is the same situation have diffrent outcome for 2 diffrent parties ?


    My Thoughts are spoken after seeing in news today that 250 plus people were killed today because israel shot missiles

     
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    why Hamas shot on Israel from the first place ? That's what I would like to know. Then we can go on.
     
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    Excuse me?? when did u see hamas firing atfirst?
     
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    ..... When they were created?
     
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    May I ask when have you seen Israel firing at Hamas first?

     
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    Sure. When Israel targets civilians and kills them it would be thought of as a terrorist attack. That's not what happened in Gaza in the last few days. The civilians were told to leave because there would be bombing. If Israel attacked residential neighborhoods without military targets, they would be just as low as Hamas.

    The difference is simple. The IDF is running a military campaign to eradicate Hamas leadership. Hamas leadership keeps their military assets among the population. The civilian deaths are a by-product of the military campaign, not the intended targets of the campaign. If the civilians would leave the area when they're warned to, there would be much less damage.

    Hamas on the other hand points their missiles towards Israel and they hope for the best. They hope their missile at least kills a Jew or two.

    The difference is intent.
     
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    May be USA should sell them some jet fighters with laser guided missiles. I am sure they much prefer an effective attack on IDF forces to just shooting an inaccurate missile that can miss. :rolleyes:
     
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    What's your point in that sentence, gworld?
     
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    Is there any other place Hamas could keep their military assets? Should they put what little they have right out in the open so Israel can fly over & destroy it? Given that Hamas has markedly inferior military assets to use, what strategy do you recommend they use in attempting to defend their position? Or is it your position that Hamas should not defend their position at all?

     
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    Hamas can negotiate for peace. From your remarks, do you approve of keeping the weapons among civilians and using them as a shield to protect the weapons?

     
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