Why US Army kill civilians in IRAQ?

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  1. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #81
    Trust me I don't think Saddam was good ;)
    Hey I am misunderstood and misunderstand others as well, ;)

    have a good one.
     
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  2. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #82
    You support bombing a country, overthrowing the government, creating a new government and constitution, backing the thugs who become the new leaders, and occupying that country for 6 years, and you don't think you have blood on your hands? Gimme a break.

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    Source?

    1 in 20 Americans will be on food stamps next year. The US has 25% of the world's prison population, but only 5% of the world's total population.
    Poverty is at an all time high, education is at an all time low, and the gap between the rich and poor in this country has never been greater.

    And we have the moral authority to bomb people into freedom?

    The war was over when Saddam was captured. This is an occupation, and the Iraqis do not want us there.

    The UN is broke. The US is the largest funder of the UN.

    You support the war, but you don't think the deaths are justified. Do you think the dead people are to blame for dying? Do you think they should have had a justification to get shot, or to stand under a bomb?

    Try thinking rationally. You endorse invading a sovereign country, overthrowing the government, blowing up loads of the infrastructure, and disbanding the military.

    And you think you're the good guy and all of those dead people are someone else's fault?

    * guerilla dies
     
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  3. godisgood

    godisgood Banned

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    #83
    I support giving people a chance outside of dictatorship and to give them the opportunity for a better life. We did not create their Constitution. They did. They voted in the new leaders. And the government of Iraq allows us to stay and wants our help. That is not technically an occupation. I do not see how it is such a bad thing that we stay in to try and help out a nation which is rebuilding. Sadly the nation's efforts are undermined by the people who feel the need to blow up innocent people every single day.
    Give me a break man. Even if you do not suport the war your logic is a bit flawed and your sense of reality is a bit loose. Do not try t say there is "blood on my hands" What is wrong with you to make you say such things?

    Not my job to provide you with sources. Do some research of Saddam's torture chambers, massacres, and etc.


    This has what to do with Iraq?

    Exaggerration of the truth. We are not bombing people into freedom. We bombed Saddams infrastructure to take down his regime. Now we bomb the people who bomb INNOCENT civilians.




    Sadly which is why I support a full pull out from the UN.

    Here you are putting words and thoughts into my mouth. Try to actually debate this in a respectful way please? I do not think the thousands and thousands of innocent civilians that have been killed by terror attacks and suicide bombings are justified. They are not justied because these so called 'martyrs' are sickening. They have some perverse idea about what Islam is about.

    When needed. But I also support staying in and repairing everything. Rebuilding the nation and putting it in a better position then it was beforehand. You howver support pulling out of a nation and leaving it in shambles by the way you are talking.

    I am pretty sure I have not killed anybody yet so yes I KNOW I am. The dead are dead because they were murdered by people who find it fit to blow themselves and others up. Their logic makes no sense. They want to punish Americans yet they blow up 30 Iraqis in a market instead.

    Really?
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #84
    I love my freedom and support the troops.
     
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  5. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #85
    What about others freedom ? :confused:
     
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  6. bogart

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    #86
    If the US didn't overthrow Saddam everything would have been alrifght :rolleyes:
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #87
    To ovetthrow Saddam US need 5-6 years ? Or maybe as McCain says 100 years ?
     
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  8. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #88
    Some people will complain no matter what. The US cut and ran from Cambodia and Pol Pot killed 1 million Cambodians in the 'killing fields' genocide.

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    rsrikanth05 Well-Known Member

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    #89
    If you read the India China food crisis thread, you'll find out about Bush's illness, that is the same reason why American's are killing civilians everywhere.
     
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  10. guerilla

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    #90
    The US dumped Agent Orange in Vietnam and 30 years later, kids are still being born with deformities.

    Who the f**k is responsible for that?

    The US leveled Food for Oil on Iraq, and the UN says 500,000 kids died.

    Madeleine Albright said, "it was worth it"


    At what point is playing God with people painful and damaging enough to make us rethink the idea of moral superiority?
     
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  11. bogart

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    #91
    Sadaam could have avoided the War by #1 not invading Kiuwait and #2 getting out of Iraq in 2003 when he was giben the chance
     
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    #92
    The US could have saved 4,000 lives and countless Billions of dollars, by minding it's own business.

    Of course I am sure you think it is a good idea to be blowing money we don't have, hastening the fall of the empire, while sending citizens off to their deaths, and creating enemies around the world. :rolleyes:

    Sometimes, killing may be necessary. Life is unfortunate and messy. Killing in self defense.

    But the notion of pre-emption defies all logic. It's an admission that we no longer believe in the moral doctrine of peace, but rather killing our way to victory. Cavemen with clubs replaced by businessmen with bombs.

    19 Hijackers Bogart. Nineteen. Nobel Prize Winning Economist Joseph Stiglitz thinks the war will cost at least $3 trillion.

    19 enemies, $3 trillion dollar response. 4,000 after the attack deaths and counting. And that doesn't include the cost in Iraqi or coalition lives.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #93
    Saddam was all but given a go ahead to invade Kuwait. Plus I thought that war was done and over years ago, guess I was wrong.

    I guess if Saddam invading Kuwait gave reason for us to attack, we surely gave someone reasoning to attack us ;)
     
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    #94
    Because the pentagon P2OG plan calls to stimulate sectarian violence. Then the plan is to eventually use the original 1950's israeli plan to break iraq into 3 parts or 3 countries along sectarian lines.

    The united states is just being used as a bad guy for the globalist agenda.

    In the words of Smedley Butler "I'm a gangster for capitalism". (Smedley butler was supposed to setup a fascist government inside of america by leading 500,000 US soldiers to take over the controls of government for Wallstreet)

    Check out my blogs for more information Congress Check, Faction 3, FreeState TV.
     
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    atvking Active Member

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    #95


    ive seen this happen in my country too...they dont care because the media is in their hands and they can murder you as they see fit

    in my country they shot 2 christian priests in a church! a father and son! about 20 armed to the tooth storm troopers busted in to a church it was not war or anything and they opened fire!!

    they can plain murder you as they wish and there is not a court in the world where you can sue them...

    if you have nukes you have security...if you dont have nukes then its your countries fault for investing money in silly stuff like heath care and education instead of weapons of mass murder like the US gov.
     
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  16. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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    #96
    You can add these questions too :

    Why US army doing torture and prisoner abuse in Bagram ?
    Why US army doing torture and prisoner abuse in Abu Ghraib ?

    WTF US army doing facist, awfull stuff in that prisons ?

    I was watching the program on TV , it was about Bagram and Abu Ghraib prisons. It was about prisoner named Dilaver mainly, but there were and there are many Dilavers in that prisons. He died at least.. that was horrible and awfull. I feel my self sick .. shocking scenes in prisons...
     
    ziya, May 7, 2008 IP