Why say "exceptional writing quality" when that is clearly not the case!

I don't get this... The marketplace is littered with people who say they can "write exceptional article very cheap with no errors" etc... when they can't even string together a grammatically correct sentence.

I mean, why?

How can someone guarantee an article that is "100% correct" when their advert isn't even put together correctly?

I actually pride myself on the fact that I am probably the most expensive writer on the boards - but for a reason!

Andy

 

Good point Andy. As you know my rate is $250.00. That does not matter. What does, it that Andy takes the time to keep improving. He may stay at that rate, he may increase it. However, he is not going to lower it. Quality pays, quantity does not.
Now if I get a client request while ill, who do you think I am going to refer the person to?

I asked him to do an experiment. He did it his way with a twist, which is fine. Now go to Google and type in: exceptional writing quality.
Andy used this phrase in the header and first line. Out of 11,300,000 postings. Check where this DP post is at. When I checked it was (after the sponsored ad) in seventh position.
This will attract outside searchers to this post. Who will click on his link. The one that deserves it the most. -----professionals want to work with professionals-------------------super Andy---------------------you are a leader-----------------

 

Hey Don

I actually see that in position 4 and don't see any sponsored ads - maybe my settings, but either way was interesting to see.

And thanks for the kind words - and of course, if there is ever anything I can do for you, a mail or PM will be sent straight over!

Regards,

Andy

 

Bloody hell! Do a Google search on "marketing". It should prove quite enlightening.

 

Why the bloody heck would he want to be under the general term marketing?

1. Is he into marketing Girl Scout Cookies?
2. Does he market computer systems?
3. He does not need to market his blood for cash.

4. He would have no problem marketing idiots! I can hire a RentACoder, full time, starting at $200 per month, I can give you the director name and contact info if you need it.

---------enlighten yourself ---- but don't play with matches ------ you are only burning yourself--------I was wondering when the next dropping would come out of the sky -----------Andy certainly does not need a rent-a-coder portfolio-----------

 

Hehe I tell you Don, I worry about some people on these boards! I am sure that some will and backup poorly written content, which is what I was talking about here.

Fully aware what marketing is Geegel as I have been doing it for more than 10 years now - what grinds my gears, and just to clarify this for you, is how the content writing boards are littered with individuals offering what they call the best writing services around... yet they can't even string a sentence together! How can they profess to offer ANY sort of writing services for the English speaking population when the mere basics are being overlooked or just not grasped?

 

The way I see it you are both engaged in the act of contemplating a cow's arsehole and complaining about the smell. Now excuse me if I don't see this act as particularly productive.

Andy, my dear friend, if you are really positioning yourself as the competition for "good qualaty articels" you're in a big doodoo and all those years spent marketing would've been better spent drinking beer.

As for the RAC link in my sig, well... I haven't updated that in roughly 3 years. You see talk is cheap and in this medium having proof about your experience, even on rentacoder, is something worth mentioning.

Regards,
George

P.S. Right now I'm drinking coffee and listening to Roxette (a trip down the memory lane). This makes me a tad more tolerant than usual. Still, ad hominem attacks are not allowed around here. Don't make a habit out of it. Just a friendly warning.

 

Andy, you are definitely right! I wrote an article going up against all the major search engine experts to test myself. No I did not use the word SEARCH.as my goal. I focused on how SEO helps local search traffic increase. The lone article submission was issued 5 hours ago. I strive for #1 to #3 positions, so I checked 5 different terms. Here are the results BEFORE blogs start to republish the article.

#1 local search traffic strategies
#2 search engine traffic increasing
#2 search traffic locally increases
#3 increase local search traffic
#1 searching strategies increasing That is the power of one article taking on the giants

Here is the address of the article (I am donating it to a WP member already to rewrite, plus rights to show off this one on their client SEO writing website) Maybe the rewrite will do even better! (different terms)

For doubters: Here is the url: http://www.articlesbase.com/seo-art...strategies-increasing-trafficking-2421179.htm -----Sorry George, there is your proof (who are you warning, I did not make the idiot statement, I back mine up -----

 

Congrats for the results. Out of curiosity I made a visit to Google Trends to see what sort of traffic you could expect. Again and again the message was: Your terms do not have enough search volume to show graphs..

Long tail keyphrases do have their purpose, just don't set your expectations too high.

And by the way, I'm not quite sure how the discussion ended up here. What does SEO have to do with the original statement? Other than piggybacking on the success of a popular forum that is.

Regards,
George

 

Sorry but you are wrong. Get the right facts.

A #1 search postiion can get 50% of the total traffic for the search term. So every 1,000 searches would mean 500
A #2 search position can get 15% of the total traffic for the search term. So every 1,000 searches would mean 150
A #3 search position can get 10% of the total traffic for the search term . So every 1,000 searches would mean 100 You are the " piggybacker." The subject is exceptional writing quality. How much do you get paid to write an article, and where are the proven results?

So if only 10,000 searches were done in a year, simply do the math. An article in 155th position will get .0005% This is why advanced writers study long term tail words, while the others chase their tails.-----------------no hard feelings---------just the facts---------------

 

Erm, I'm not into writing articles. I'm a copywriter. I deal in conversion rates, not SERP's or keyword densities. But anyway, I do have enough experience with SEO to recognize a fallacy when I see one.

First of all, I'm not arguing with the facts, I'm arguing with your interpretation. Low traffic keyphrases will never see 1000 hits in a month. Why a month? Because, that's the rough period for which you can expect a high SERP for any of the given keyphrase. You are experiencing the "fresh content" effect, which unfortunately doesn't last, not without serious backlinks or promotion anyway.

Second of all, you have to wonder what quality the resulting traffic will have. Not all keyphrases are created equal: "buy local search increase services" is a much more profitable keyphrase for example, despite obviously being very long tail.

Regards,
George

 

The term you suggested would be easy. Do you want to pay me to write it for you? Show me the yearly traffic visitors for each of my terms, I know them. Now tell me how many times blogs will republish the article. The number of sales or services made to visitors.
That is how value is determined on the internet. It is called ROI, return on investment. I can prove mine, can you? ARE YOU SUGGESTING YOUR TALENTS EXCEL MINE?

By the way, your signature links are dead, if you were truly a "copywriter", all 5 of my terms would have headline or sub-headline value.
On the internet interested traffic is king. The are receptive before coming to the website. What good is a super description of a product if no one sees it?

My clients have always replied NONE. -------------so again, where is your proof?--------- I have displayed mine, and am now off to help another member of DP for FREE, what are you contributing?-----Talk is cheap, action produces results----------

 

Good find mate. That's what happens when you don't update your sig in 3 years. I should probably fiddle with the thing. Thanks for pointing this out. It's just that I don't really use DP to find clients, they typically find me through other means.

As for SEO, most of the time it is unreliable. I typically recommend my clients to purchase advertising. Much easier to calculate ROI this way, now that you mention it and the results show up in an instant and are long lasting. Even if organic search traffic becomes significant, profitable advertising campaigns should be kept into place. In the end, you get what you pay for. You either invest time or money and with the latter you always know where you stand.

We deal with different pieces of the pie and that's OK. Let's leave it there.

Regards,
George

 

I think at this point, as the thread is right off topic, its time to leave it be.

However, George - you seem particularly angry about something and I am unsure exactly what. Just for the record, I do not position myself as competition for "good qualaty articels" (your words there - are you a copywriter, really?). I position myself as a professional writer who produces exceptional quality articles and copy... A world of difference there! I am also unsure why I would have been better spending years drinking beer.

However, I am really not all that bothered, so leave this one to die now, eh? If you wish to explain your points, please feel free to PM me.

Andy

 

No anger mate, just a tad of sarcasm. But I agree, this thread has definitely derailed, so let's drop it.

Regards,
George

 

Phrases like "Exceptional writing quality" are used because they seem "flashy" to foreigners. I'm an article writer myself, and I'm originally Russian - I once learned English at a foreign school, until I moved to America and learned it from hands-on immersion. I know what phrases like "exceptional writing quality" can feel like to a person without much writing experience. To them, it instinctively feels like "a winner" when they're trying to sell themselves. In reality, it's a bit more complicated than that - but I'd be going off-topic if I delved into all that

Best Regards,
vip-ip ...

 

Well said, and 100% correct

 

Vip-Ip and Kraven2

You are both correct. Yet, there is another viewpoint of "exceptional quality writer."

This one involves you, you personally. Both of you have a good head on your shoulders.

The terminology has very little to do with flashy or native English, or county of origin.
It has to do with economics. Simply put: Supply and demand.

Picture an unusually odd shaped pyramid. This one is gigantically fat on the bottom and similar to the width of a pin at the top. Call this pyramid, "Supply of People that Can Write."
At the bottom put a price tag of $2.50 to $4.00 and at the top $250 to $300. At the $50 mark, the pyramid is already rather skinny.

Now the supply (buyers) look all up and down the pyramid. However, based on results you can obtain for the buyer, is where you will be found.

It is learning the right strategies that allow you to rise up higher. The demand is actually very unfilled at the higher levels. Only you can decide what height you want to be comfortable at. I can only tell you that personally, I had more work than possible at the top.

-----------------------best to both of you in your pursuit upward!---------------------------

 

dyadvisor,

What I meant was that "exceptional quality writer," to me (as a 'former foreigner,' if that makes sense), sounds like a phrase you WOULDN'T learn in your first-year English course. Words like "Qualified" and "Sophisticated" and "Purposeful" aren't taught in basic-level classes; thus, to a foreigner, it only makes sense that a fancy phrase will convey a fancy image. Oftentimes, the incorrect use of just one word may send the exact opposite image back to the buyer.

Best Regards,
vip-ip ...

 

I think that would only be the case if your buyer was uneducated. I do not think that you and many others here are giving yourself enough credit.

Educated buyers of your writing skills have money and a great tolerance level. They pay the upper part of the scale for people that can prove themselves. On Sunday, I paid my programmer from India $300.00 for a partial week.

Should I have paid him less because he was not sophisticated, and a foreigner? You have one life, do not let perceptions stop you! Who cares, let your work do the talking.

His Gtalk English can even read the bumbling messages my numb swollen fingers tumble out. He is perceptive, and uses his brain. That is what really matters. Do not let a few dumb Americans stop you, they could not afford quality work. ------kick some dumb American butt!-----