Why risk it with Azoogle and MaxBounty

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by ClickChick, Oct 6, 2006.

  1. #1
    I've been doing some reading about cost-per-lead advertising networks and some names stick out more than others. I've signed up to a few and see lots of similarities. Started earning some nice money too. But honestly, why would someone bother dealing with these mega-network like Azoogle and MaxBounty when there's lots of smaller networks which probably appreciate my business more, and would take the extra step to make a lady happy.

    Dealing with the bigger networks is just getting the owners rich.
     
    ClickChick, Oct 6, 2006 IP
  2. xboxundone

    xboxundone Well-Known Member

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    But the thing is those bigger companies can payout more and sometimes its a LOT MORE!!! I had you same thoughts and ideas but i have found that most smaller companies are trying so hard to get new people they bearly pay attention to the ones that have signed up. I can talk with a rep anyday 8-5 during the week via AIM and get a response almost immediately form AZ of Maxbounty. Its all in what works for you and i have tried MANY networks but have found Maxbounty and Azoogle to be the Top two CPA networks with CPA empire and Hydramedia performing well.
     
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  3. ClickChick

    ClickChick Guest

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    No offence Xbox but I'm guessing you probably work for these companies, you promote them a fair bit. So your post is appreciated, but doesn't doesn't much water.

    Anyone have any unbiased views as to why I shouldn't go with smaller and probably more loyal networks like rex, directrack, primeq and others instead of the BLOATED too big networks like azogle, cj and maxbounty?
     
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    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #4

    higher payouts and more compaigns offered make men happy more than "these extra steps" ;)
     
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  5. xboxundone

    xboxundone Well-Known Member

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    *LOL* you little PEONS crack me up come in here asking a question... I make an honest reply and am replied to by u stating i work for them sorry but you are wrong... They work for me as in i am affiliate for them. I promote them because they work...

    Go with the smaller networks take the risk of them being a fraud. i have gone with some of the smaller networks and given them a chance touting they can pay me more give me more attention and usually ends up being a lie as they don't provide more support and didn't pay more.... don't get me wrong you may be able to get a small network to help you out...

    No skin of my back :) I will take the higher payout that enables me to pay more per click and enables me to earn more money...
    Its your choice but obiviously you didn't come here looking for real opinions since it seems you have already made up your mind.
     
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  6. MaxS

    MaxS Peon

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    To be honest with you, I'm not at all a large affiliate and I'm fairly new to this side of the "market" but I felt the same way as you when I was with Azoogle & Maxbounty. I have now put most of my time into CPAEmpire (because of certain offers available exclusively on CPAE) and I have no complaints - as xboxundone said, most reps are available a very decent amount of hours per day and are more than willing to talk.

    Also, I know for a fact xboxundone doesn't work for Azoogle or any other network - that cracked me up.
     
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  7. Zygoot

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    IMO you take a lot more risk when you use one of these tiny networks. It's not because Azoogle and some other CPA networks are big that there's something wrong what them. There's a good reason why a lot of people use some of the big networks like Azoogle. Azoogle is reliable and you can be fairly sure that you will get paid on time. That's not always the case with some of the smaller networks.

    Additionally, some of the bigger networks are able to provide higher payouts per lead. There are offers on Azoogle that pay more than $1 more than exactly the same offer on MaxBounty.

    Who cares how rich the owners get? I only care about how much I earn.
     
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  8. JP Sauve

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    If I may humbly point out, there are also campaigns on MaxBounty which pay more than other networks including Azoogle and the rest. :) Otherwise, we wouldn't be in business.

    ChickClick, the decision as to who you work with is up to you. I can only suggest you do your research on who you want to work with... see if they have campaigns which suit your needs, a payment schedule that works for you, and good support. Most webmasters deal with multiple networks to lessen their risk and to have a wide variety of campaigns to chose from.

    That said, I presume you're new to the business? You'll catch more flies with honey. Might want to rethink the tone of your posts.
     
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  9. Zygoot

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    Mm you're right, there are some offers on MaxBounty that pay more than on other networks. It wasn't my purpose to put MaxBounty in a bad light, I'm actually doing fairly well with some of MB's offers :D

    Maybe I should reword it a bit to this: The more affiliates a network has for a certain offer (and the more leads it pushes everyday), the easier it gets to negotiate higher payouts with the merchant.
     
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  10. ClickChick

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    Oh GOD, you must be joking. I didn't mention them, but a little research shows they are the worst of the lot. The biggest spammer in the world starts a CPA network and you want to support it? Didn't they send 100+ Million spam mails per day? (ChetF, where are you to support this claim?) They only got out of the spam business once they got sued by micorsoft.

    I don't think there a little company either. They earned millions through spam, so they have to be just as big if not bigger than the others.

    I'd never want to support spammers, particularly one of the worst offenders in the world. I'm surprised anyone would give them the time of day, let alone be a CPA network of choice. Would you let a criminal babysit your kids, or theif hold on to your life savings?
     
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  11. DomainMagnate

    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    ClickChick, just get a job, online business is def not for you :rolleyes:
     
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  12. aacircle

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    Show us your research then? Would like to see u backup this comment.

    Totally agree.
     
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  13. ClickChick

    ClickChick Guest

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    http://www.affiliate2dot0.com/archives/2005/03/microsoft_kills.php
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8879528/
    http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/safety/legislation/default.mspx
     
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  14. aacircle

    aacircle Active Member

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    Oh... scary information. Thanks for your supporting evidence. Much appreciated.
     
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    Big companies are good and if you find it confortable and profitable to work with them that's the best but there are also smaller companies (or not so well known yet) that are very good also. Also when you go for a (too) small company with no reviews yet you must consider the risk of working with a company that doesn't pay (or other problems like skiming, late payments and more). The best solution differs from person to person.
    Also, like JP Sauve wrote the most webmasters work with multiple networks, and that's for 2 reasons: to find the best solution for their requirements and to diversify.

    This is just my opinion :) Good luck everybody!
     
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  16. xboxundone

    xboxundone Well-Known Member

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    Plus maxbounty has many offers that Azoogle and others don't have that convert great.

    I find using multiple networks pays off for all in the end as they all get my business i get the highest payout and the advertiser got what he wanted.
     
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    ClickChick sounds like she's working for a "smaller" network.
     
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    Well it seems Steven Richter has paid his debt to society via the massive fine lumped on him. Perhaps it's time to move on and treat CPAEmpire with respect. They seem to be doing the right thing now and we have no issues using them.
     
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  19. ClickChick

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    Well this is getting farther than I intended anyway. Think what you will.

    If I can update my original statement. I guess I do get it now. The bigger companies have more staff which should give better servce in theory. Admitting I'm wrong, I've actually discussed business with maxbounty since my first posting and see they are pretty pleasant and are on top of it pretty good, even proactive. Much better than I would have expected at least.

    Nothing yet on my application to azoogle yuet.

    I'll never apply to the third company mentioned in this thread.
     
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  20. ticksoft

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    Azoogle doesn't strike me as a big network, it's more a niche affiliate network that's focused on email marketing - although it does accommodate web based marketing.

    The main point about these services is that they have a central pot of cash where all the merchants that use the service pay into, this means if you make a small amount from each, then it gathers up and you'll be paid more often than if each one paid you directly. The other point should be that networks provide a middle man to audit transactions to make sure the merchant isn't acting fraudulently (they do the same the other way around for the merchant).
     
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