Why my sales has suddenly stopped?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by affiliatenewbie, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. #1
    I am cb affiliate doing a bit of Bum marketing. I had some success during the initial 3 months afterwards inspite of 1000+ page views per day and hops of 500+ per dayi have no sales ? what happened ?
     
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  2. wiper

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    Great man. Bum bum
     
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  3. kingbrend

    kingbrend Active Member

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    I finally shut down my PPC because of the same thing. Losing more then what you spend when you made tons of profit for months sucks. It maybe just the time of the year.
     
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  4. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    Some people are saying that January and February are the worst marketing months of the year, because customers spent a lot of money on Christmas and New Year, so that's the reason why they are not buying anymore.
     
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  5. CARNANO

    CARNANO Member

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    I'll tell you all what's happening! Hackers have figured out a new system to skim affiliate programs by hacking there links. Sales Trends!!!! B.S. Campaigns that have been succesful for months don't just suddenly dry up all at once across the board. One Campaign yah, 2 sure, but I'm hearing reports from hundreds of people and I also have had 5 very succesful campaigns dry up in the last month. Cookies are dead with all the antivirus software and i guarantee hackers are cheating you!! Just think if you were a coder and you figured a way to replace some poor PPC advertisers affiliate link with your own somewhere in the process???? That Poor PPc Advertiser would be making the hacker a fortune.....while struggling to get by if he gets by at all!!! It's all B.S. Sell your own products and get paid through paypal that's what I say!!!!
     
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    something is up i am in the same posistion, there are so many wierd things going on lately. I found out on my other pc that I had that same hack that someone was stealing affiliate commisions, its from that love crush thing by zango. Its redicoulous and cb is doing nothing about it. All cb has to do is add to the affiliate link security. It is probbably also do to january and february, but thats just wierd because as long as ur getting hits, u should be getting some sales u know..
     
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    I think its more to do with the trends , jan and feb have been slow for me but things are picking up. I think youll see an improvement in March so dont panick just yet dudes.
     
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    It's slow across the board
     
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    I'm desperately finding such a script/program from past 1 week , i know many guys who are making their money this way !!
     
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    I hope you not going to use that script to rip people off?
     
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    well for me, it's been 8days now. no sales for 8days.
     
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    I don't do much PPC so maybe this issue isn't effecting me... But when I click through on my links to make sure my clickbank code is in place, it is... I'm not really sure how this happens. Are you saying that there's hacker software being installed on a persons computer that changes all CB codes to their codes? I'm still getting sales but not at the pace I was in December - but as many people have said - that may just be seasonal.
     
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    footodors Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Wouldn't they have to hack into your webhost change the affiliate links?
    Beats me, but is slow lately
     
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    I have noticed some slow days as well, but my hoplink numbers are still on pace. I would think that if your hoplinks are still being tracked then you are probably not a victim of affiliate theft...only poor conversions.

    Tax returns should be coming in the mail soon...hopefully that will bring out the spenders!
     
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    I will go crazy if i get that script :D asfar as i know one need not hack into host for this , its related to cookie stealing and stuff + some other techniques .
     
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  17. eagles325

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    What we don't know from this video is whether or not redzebra's hoplink was tracked at CB. This information would tell us if we should be looking for a decline in our hoplink tracking numbers. I would assume the affiliate theives are jumping in before the hop is registered at CB. But if the theif gets in after our hops are "counted", then it could explain the drop in sales some have experienced.

    Anyone know more about this?

    I am still suprised at how many people install crap like zango on their computer. Sadly, these are probably the same suckers I try to attract to my affiliate sites :D
     
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  18. kingbrend

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    Yeah, just cloak your links and Zango won't replace it. I've tested it for the last hour and Zango seems to only mess with direct affiliate links and not redirects or cloaked links.

    Sad for me, mine wern't cloaked until now.
     
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  19. NCMedia

    NCMedia Well-Known Member

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    I'll try to shed some light here:

    Canaro - This 5 campaign dry up could infact be nothing more than PPC sniffers, you've bee running successful campaigns for a while-people watch that. If you are there for long, ppl know you are making sales, they bump you, you get less quality traffic - still same volume but less quality.

    The only way your commission is being stolen is if the end users computer is hacked and has a 'zango' type of ware installed. Hop goes from PPC - Landing page - Merchant on a normal computer, on an infected computer the cookie gets reset on the last step. Might be coincidence but perhaps the products you've chosen are the same ones that these wares are targetting due to the nice payout and proven successful campaigns...

    I have almost 10 products on CB now, and I WATCH MY CONVERSIONS LIKE A HAWK! By now, i would have been able to spot scammer affiliates or those making ridiculous numbers with almost 100% conversion rates... Perhaps scammers have rings of multiple CBID's that circulate these wares sites (last I heard you could coop with Z to get your hoplink in their ad inventory or something? someone might want to clarify that)...

    People cookie stuff sometimes too which is not admirable but this does not steal or reset anything - this depends on the users steps getting to the merchant site (i.e. user clicks your ad, comes to your lander, goes to merchant, it cookies ok - THEN - user leaves, visits a natural search result, that site has cookies stuffed in a pixel, the user goes back to merchants site, and your cookie was over written). From here - it simply looks like many of you will go through many of these cycles with CB and any network before you realize that PPC is very unsteady with any program (especially if you only stick to G/YSM/MSN).

    My suggestion would be to spread your campaigns out over different channels and then you can at least do cross checks to eliminate possible flaws in your campaign. TAKE A GOOD LOOK at your traffic (don't just use google analytics, try to use 2-3 for both your own products or on your landing pages, but track your traffic well). If you mine your data right, you may notice competitors just clicking away at your ads over and over again, or random no aff traffic (click farms, competitors...), I won't name names but I caught a publishing network red-handed with this, got an apology but still never returned to their platform and never will.

    A lot can happen in your analytics, a lot can happen to your campaign, but I wouldn't go as far as to say ppl can now randomly hijack your aff link or inject theirs - this would affect any and all networks if it were possible (The regular scams do apply though - actually here is a ton of ways to get scammed - forgot I had THIS up, please read (affiliate hijacking common scenarios)...

    I do see the odd 1 hit 1 conversion and never return type of affiliates, and I think it's just CB members that buy with their own link (now i'm thinking maybe those are these warez sites, who knows). I truly don't think anyone can possible inject their CB ID into your campaign without an infection somewhere in the process on the users end ie toolbars/installs etc.

    To the user that claims he knows ppl tht have these scripts - i would proceed with caution. Getting caught for white label downloads infecting computers is a rather large criminal act, and i doubt your friends legal team is the size of Zango's for instance ;) keep that kind of info to yourself it's not something to be proud of.

    Best,
    Norb.
     
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  20. natj

    natj Well-Known Member

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    I doubt it's a simple case of "Trends". ClickBank has been down more times in Jan/Feb than I can remember.

    Add to that order outages on 14th, the PayPal outage on 19th, the 'updates' back in Jan... I keep sending visitors to these merchant pages and they all just disappear without a sale. I had a profitable pay period 1st week of Jan. It's been downhill ever since these 'problems'.

    Looking for alternatives. CB is good, pays on time, but the issues right now are too many to just shrug off.
     
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