why muslims stick to islam ????

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  1. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #21
    StOx has some sort of problem where if something makes sense and it isn't in line with his views, he just dosen't accept it as fact, when it really is.

    The verse is quite clear

    He has set free the two seas meeting together. There is a barrier between them. They do not transgress. (Quran, 55:19-20)

    Now, is he saying that this does not happen or does it? Science tells us the above statement is correct.
     
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  2. felzafndy

    felzafndy Banned

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    #22
    plz guys donot spam in my threads if you have a question about what i wrote
    just ask it

    i donot want posts offtopic
     
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    ziya Well-Known Member

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    Ok, sorry bro. I will not post or reply if it will lead offtop
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #24
    What i have a problem with is when people quote mythological scripture, interpret it wildly, Then claim science supports it. If it's supposed to be describing something then your god should describe it properly, Not do it like a riddle that has to be interpreted.

    If the quran described it accurately and explained why it happens i would be more likely to believe it, Though even then it wouldn't mean mohammad is a prophet.

    the thing with interpretations is they are used by people who WANT to believe as justification for believing, They aren't used as a REASON to believe. Face it, Not many muslims look through the quran looking for reasons to dismiss it, Instead they look through it looking for justification for believing it.
     
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    felzafndy Banned

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    #25
    thank you very much just ignore any offtopic post i will report it later
     
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  6. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #26
    i would be quite interested to see how that would work. Demanding evidence before believing something and disbelieving the unsupported are not really things that could be made fun of. But if you think you could mock me for being logical and grounded in science, facts, observations and reason then, go ahead. Good luck.
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #27
    The statement being correct doesn't mean it's a miracle, a god's revelation or anything. People back then were not idiots and must have noticed that Atlantic and Mediterranean waters were different, as they knew many other things of that sort.
     
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    ST12 Active Member

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    #28
    I agree.
    Most muslims look through the quran for justifications for believing it.
    And almost non for reasons to dismiss it.
    Most of them never question brutalities done by muhammad, but instead justify them as orders from God.
    True saints and prophets don't come to punish people, but to save them.

    Once you become violent person you give a negative example to others hence God won't like it prophets to give such examples.


    .................Rahman, a father of two, was arrested and is on trial for rejecting Islam. The Afghan constitution, which is based on Sharia, or Islamic law, says that apostates can receive the death penalty............

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/03/22/afghan.christian/index.html


    Since God is good to all, He won't like it somebody to die because of changing his own personal believes. Hence Islam is not from God.
     
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    abdobasha2004 Well-Known Member

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    #29
    muslims know that
    Islam is the only religion that believe in other religions
    muslims believe in Jesus and bible

    that is why islam is unique
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    #30
    Islam HAS to believe that. It's only 1500 years old. It wouldn't get far unless it latched on to other cults that preceded it.
     
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    felzafndy Banned

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    #31
    guys just ignore spammy replies

    donot reply on such replies

    when you reply on them you give their post a value
     
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    #32
    I am glad that at least you sir(or ma'am) understand open discussion. I myself have met some very open minded Muslims. My point was not to say that any of the stuff I listed was divine inspiration however. My point was that anyone can find Truth in a book if it has enough pages. It does not PROVE anything. But as you are a devout believer that should not bother you. Believers don't need proof just faith, right? Believe what you like, but don't point to the Quran and call it proof like the OP did. The proof of whether a religious path is "correct" or not comes from the experience of the believer and not from any book. The book is a guide at best, the believer is still the one who must decide what the right path is and live it.

    BTW I am a pagan, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam and all the rest are all some other tribes ways to me. I look into them with an open mind but I do not take on their ways for myself even if I do admire and sometimes agree with those beliefs.
     
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    #33
    Muslims stick to Islam because it is there upbringing and life's teachings, same as other individuals stick to there religions. The point that you provide graphics and web pages of literacy to prove this is why they stick to it doesn't make it the right choice, is the same as every other religion who provides why they believe there's is the right choice.

    Every one has a right to believe what they want as long as it is kept as a right to gain knowledge (despite the accuracy and reality) understanding and purposely a belief system. Point is though no matter what you provide as your evidence it has already been said and done by another as there proof, minus a few switching of words and names.

    As for why atheists and agnostics etc etc choose to dissect any paragraph with relation to religion is the same as why any religious person feels they need to clarify and provide reasoning to there beliefs~ pure satisfaction what they believe is the right way. So ultimately is always an open ended conversation because no one can prove or provide exact proof there way of thinking is right........so enjoy the game of tug a war :)
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #34
    Sharia Law is cruel and barbaric.
     
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    #35
    so why Christians do not believe in muhammed?
    i think they are ment to belive
    because muhammed was mentioned in the bible or something like that ..
     
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    abdobasha2004 Well-Known Member

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    #36
    my point of view is people believe what they want to believe
    it is god wish that some are Muslims some are Christians and some are disbelievers ..
    i think people are created to believe in god by nature, disbelievers want no rules and complete freedom
    i am sure that the last prophet was Muhammed so i stick to islam
     
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    #37
    because christianity come first.
     
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    felzafndy Banned

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    #39


    you think you know any thing about islam ??

    prove that what are you talking about is told in

    quaran

    you donot know any thing :D as the source donot talk about quran

    so plz donot talk about any thing you donot know coz this reveal

    your ignorance

    :D

    donot cry just try to learn

    ps : thank you for your reply

    and i really want thank digital point forum

    a visitor saw this thread and now he is talking to me to convert to islam i am really very very very happy

    thank you all

    and thank to any one post in my thread as thats mean new people will see it

    thank you all plz continue posting
     
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    #40
    this thread topic is about why Muslims stick to Islam, the answer is very simple, its because they see no need to change for something less, of course there will be many arguments from Muslims and non-Muslims, mostly around "do you see what I see, do you understand what I understood?"

    there are many non-Muslims who said its impossible that the Quran is a man's word, of them some who became Muslims and there are also many who say its impossible that the Quran is God's word, if you really want to know take nobody's word about it just because somebody said what you like to hear, and do your own research.
     
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