pulikuttann, They are not the things that are said in Islam.As in every religion they are man made rules. this are parts of their teachings and history, there are tons around Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3311: ‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236: Narrated Hisham’s father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married ‘Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. Here is how the Prophet used to have fun and sex with his child bride. Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 6, Number 298: Narrated ‘Aisha: The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses). Sahih Muslim Book 3, Number 0629: ‘A’isha reported: I and the Messenger (may peace be upon him) took a bath from the same vessel and our hands alternated into it in the state that we had had sexual intercourse. In the Sirat Rasul, we read the incredible story that Muhammad, himself, wanted to marry a crawling baby girl a few years before his death. This happened after he married A’isha. The following citation is from the book of Sirat Rasul Allahby Ibn Ishak, the most authentic biographer of Muhammad (pbuh) Most other biographies are based on this monumental work by Ibn Ishak/Ibn Hisham: (Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I.I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l-Fadl) when she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. Abdu’l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubaba….(ref.10, p. 311)
More BS and Mental Sickness...... looks like you a are badly victim of Islam haters Propoganda...... I suggest you to watch the movie "The message" written by H.A.L Craig (not a muslim) and starring Anthony Quinn
Ok, but first you must provide proof, of that I have posted here, that it is not so. Don't bypass, you know taqiyya and kitman again, doesn't work with people who are aware.
What book you are quoting? You have found some translations of Hadith collections and trying to get to a point from something man-made. If you only read documents written by your religions extremists you can never learn the truths. So Mohammed had 150 followers in 15 years and they had the wars with a 100 people army or something? Did you watch the Spartans movie and think it's telling the Islamic revolution or something? Do you think so many people converted in that age simply because they were defeated in wars? So they say "If we can't kill them, we should believe them"? So it would make sense to you if i said "Jesus Christ could not even predict Islam is coming and could not avoid it, so what sort of holy guy is he?" this would be a ridiculous statement surely, however it would match your way of thinking. And that 2,7 billion murders thing; you could say 50 billion too since there's no limits about exaggeration but.. Can you honestly tell me you actually believe more murders have been commited by Muslims than Christians throughtout the whole history since they were created? Would it be a statistic to say your religion is the religion of blood? To me not, to your way of consideration; yes. I don't understand where you get these non-sense ideas, you are neither in the position nor have the knowledge to discuss Kuran or Islam, first you should learn Arabic and read original texts to do so. You can't just pretend you know anything about Islam when all you know is some quotes mainly translated by your religions extremists.
WE HAVE HEARD THIS NUMEROUS TIMES AND YOU ARE INTO TAQIYYA AND KITMAN. - EXPOSED! BY THE WAY I HAVE PEOPLE OF ARABIC ORIGIN TO DEBATE. NOBODY DARED SO FAR. COULD DO THAT AT AN UNIVERSITY CAMPUS, LIVE BROADCASTING IF YOU WISH SO (with you as the sponsor) I DIDN'T GET ANY IDEA. BUT AS IT HAPPENS IF ONE SEARCHES FOR THE TRUTH IT WILL BE REVEALED.[/quote]
Holy Prophet (pbuh) married to Mother Aisha (Rta) with the Will of God. Allah (SWT) asked Prophet to marry with her not for sexual reasons but there was a very strong Logic. Alalh planed a role for Mother Aisha to teach women as Muhammad (PBUH) was teaching people. There were some certain women related things which Prohpet (PBUH) could not talk to women for being a man . Mother Aisha was asked to be married n younger age so that she can learn and get guidance from Prophet from early age and she served Islam as a source of knowledge after Muhammad(pbuh) like no one other could do. open your minds to understand things,Marriage does not mean only sex. Now, dont portrait this exceptional case as All muslms are marrying young girls. You will hardly find any example of this inthe real world.
Holy Muhammed and A'isha have been married for 9 years and A'isha was 27 when holy Mohammed passed. She was 17 or 18 when they got married. At least make some search before you claim anything. I can write all his wives and their ages here if you want to learn something instead of making biased comments. But again; you are not in the position to discuss these, i can tell such stuff about your religion relying on some quotes i randomly find from Google, but i don't, simply because i'm not a specialist about your religion so i don't see the right in myself to speak about it, i don't know how come you find the right in you to discuss things you have no actual knowledge about, some type of ignorancy i guess. PS: I wont respond your claims 1 by 1, you know why? Because you are already illustrating my points with yours, such as: Only reference is Kuran, whoever teaches what to whom is not about religion, every religion have their members with different way of interpretations, it's not unique to Islam or any other religion, it's about human, intellectuality, ignorance, social structures, languages, different intelligence levels etc. Will you get to seperate these from religion sometime to understand what you're talking about or will you go on believing those random translations you find from a search engine? I guess 2nd.
Everyone knows how muslims treat non muslim in their countries. I don't know how honest you are, but most of the muslims I know are not my best example of "truth tellers". About the holiness of your prophet .......... you can read about other great prophets and then compare yours to them and see what holy prophets normally do and preach.
you have right to make an opinion on basis of your expeience but dont try to put your conclusions as authenticated facts..... WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT NON Muslims life inmuslim countries? I live in a muslim country and i never see any incident against non muslims....Have many non muslim friends who are living in peace.
What a reasoning... Sounds like a fairy tale for people having little to no education. How come that a "true prophet" cannot talk on certain topics with women? This sounds so illogical and fake excuse as it can be. .....Now, dont portrait this exceptional case as All muslms are marrying young girls. You will hardly find any example of this inthe real world... You are very right about this statement. It is hard to beat Muhammad's world record of having sex with a 9 year old girl. 53 old man with a 9year old girl teaching her what to talk to other women. Do you realize how this sounds?
I said that marriage was for not the sake of sex......but was ordered by Allah(Swt). Its hard to understand foryou in west that there are some things we dont talk to women other than our wives. Since I am not native english so I am not finding the correct word to explain it but its some thing like men are not meant to speak on sexual issues with women other than your wife. There are more civilized way to disagree with an argument. Its not necessary to bash someone who is respected more than our parents and loved more than our children and "ours" mean over a billion people
Fired? I did not realize that they were working here... Most of the people that you think are Muslims, are pathetic wannabe sympathizers who know about as much about Islam as I know about brain surgery. Those people are getting "treated like this" as you see it, because they tend to swear, condone having sex with children, support terror and hatred, and otherwise hyjack threads if for no other reason than to waste time. I doubt even 1% of those claiming to be, or who seem to be Muslim even are.
These people were living in peace too, until... http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegraph/story/0,22049,21483511-5001028,00.html These Christian girls were living in peace, until they were beheaded. Destruction of Non-Muslim Worship Centers Riles Faith Minorities in Malaysia Jihadists kill 5, injure 4 in nighttime attack on Kashmir village Ethiopia: Muslims beat Christian evangelist to death Saudi Arabia: 3 French travelers killed in Muslims-only area Buddhist monks have been hacked to death, clubbed to death, bombed and burned to death Missouri Muslim accused in arms case is indicted Blogger gets 4 years for insulting Islam Muslim Driver Who Allegedly Ran Over Men After Religious Argument Two Chicago men arrested on charges of planning, recruiting for "violent jihad" Three Christian girls beheaded in Indonesia Starting to see a pattern yet, Adnan?
Let's see, being aware of these are the insult, not that they are being done in the name of islam, right? Good infidels will just sweep these under the carpet in the name of "multiculturalism."
All I can think of: It is all those infidels fault who are in the way of the believers of the True, Holly and last prophet Murdhamed.
Yes, "BS Spread Mission" at work.... You want me to show you the news links where muslims are killed for being muslims......?
You could & if it's sick we'll say so, your kind (not in the bad way) will not the say the same though to things like the above, your first response is, i can show the same thing so it nullifies what you have.