Why It's Nearly Impossible To Buy Converting Traffic.

Discussion in 'Traffic' started by scottspfd82, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hey Guys,

    I wanted to take a moment and share my personal experience with paid traffic, and let you know what works and what doesn't, at least in my experience.

    Paid To Click And Paid To Surf Traffic: This traffic generally sucks for most niches. The users don't care about your site or offer, they just want to rack up as many views as possible.

    Parked Domain Traffic: Generally not so great unless it's extremely targeted, which is tough to do. Most people will see your site isn't what they're looking for and click away.

    Paid Banner Ads: Either CPC or CPM, it's really hit or miss. With CPC you can test relatively cheaply. But unless you're offering something very relevant to the visitor, the results aren't that great.

    PPC: A double edged sword. It can either make you or lose you a fortune. You have to avoid click fraud. The bigger guys like adwords have a lot of competition. It takes some work and testing, but it can definitely work.

    Article Marketing: Can be great when done correctly. A lot of people think that uploading 100 poorly written articles can bring them traffic. That's not exactly how it works.

    In order for this to be effective, you need to do keyword research. You need to be soft selling the visitor the whole time, convincing them to visit your site. The articles need to be informative but leave them wanting more.

    A well written article on Ezine can bring in 20 or more highly targeted visitors every day.

    Articles that soft sell visitors are one of my specialties. There's a link in my signature to my sales thread.

    5 articles will cost you around $60. But these aren't regular articles. They're designed to drive highly targeted traffic to your site or offer.

    Assume you get 15 unique visitors per day from each article. 75 highly targeted real visitors a day who have a genuine interest in your site.

    That's 2,250 highly targeted visitors per month. If you where running PPC at .10 per click that's $225.

    So to sum it up, if you need help driving REAL visitors to your site with a genuine interest in what you're offering, check out my signature.
     
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    #2
    That was a great way to get people to want to buy your service, you told us what's wrong with what we're doing and then told us how we can fixing, mentioning your product so we don't have to go looking for one. Saying that I'm a cheapskate so I wont be buying your service.
     
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  3. scottspfd82

    scottspfd82 Active Member

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    #3
    At what point did I call you a cheapskate?

    Thanks anyway.
     
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    #4
    Nice scott you have a website ? How many words ? Do you submit them ? Keyword density ?

    Article marketing 5 for 60 is not bad but you could actually find competitors for less .

    What do you offer they do not ?

    Have you ran experiments on your own site ? If so let me see the stats .

    my other company http://www.adversal.com needs a few articles . In the previous years I have went found webmasters and webhost but these days meeting with clients and what not I really do not have the time to bring in fresh blood (even though the old blood works well.)

    I was actually thinking about article marketing . Low and behold you show up :)

    Give me a pm will you to answer these questions or answer here
     
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    #5
    Hey "Targeted Visitors".

    Great questions! I'm happy to answer them for you.

    I have about 30 websites. How many words? If you read my thread it's 300-500.

    I can submit them, but I charge extra. Keyword density? I write for people, not search engines. And guess what? It works.

    Yeah, I realize there are competitors out there who charge less. I can speak English. I have 100's of satisfied clients. I produce results. I'm actually pretty well known for what I do. Anyone who's worked with me can testify to that.

    Yeah, I run experiments on a daily basis. You want to see my niches? Hmm, so does my competition, maybe you guys should get together. Or maybe I can set up an affiliate site and we can run a test with your traffic in public here?

    You run a pop under company. Good for you. Best of luck. I can see from all of your testimonials from satisfied clients on this forum that you do excellent work. Keep it up.

    If you're seriously contemplating using my service then feel free to contact me. If you're just trying to trash my thread then nice try, I've got better things to spend my time on.

    Thanks for the reply.
     
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    #6
    I'll give you credit on your thoughts because "most" of what you say is true. However you also need to factor in two more things. This is where your assumption on some traffic is wrong. The two things you need to factor in are "How good is your product really?" and "How high is consumer demand?" IF you can answer both with a positive answer then some of the above mentioned traffic methods work. PTC for instance. If you have a product in demand and one that's worth looking at a PTC site "Can" be good marketing because you know all people viewing are real and have payment methods such as cc's, AP, PayPal, etc. It all depends on many variables. I 100% agree that bot traffic will get a user nothing but Alexa ranking. 90% of the traffic sold on Digital Point is bot traffic and useless garbage. I also 100% agree with you to also use all the methods you've posted also. In fact do them all before you purchase traffic for your site as an additional stream always! It's good advice. Just adding to the fact.
     
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    #7
    Thxs scott I was making a serious inquire I was not trying to trash your thread .

    I am sorry you felt that way . Please do not give me a bad name as a thread trasher because I am a nice person and would not dream of trying to hurt someone elses reputation by thrashing them in the own thread :(

    I feel article marketing is a great form of marketing and one I was looking into getting done for my business. I just had a couple of things I was wanting to know . That is all .

    How you read that any diffrent and why you flew off the deep end like that I will never know.

    Maybe you are overstressed?

    I personally look at how a business man acts before I do business with them thrashing ones thread is not proper business like conduct . Neither is flying off the handle . If you felt I was you could have easily handled it like a profesional through a PM asking me .

    But I will give you the benifit of the doubt and say you are overstressed .
     
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  8. scottspfd82

    scottspfd82 Active Member

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    #8
    @ Traffic Sales - Very valid points. The quality of the product and consumer demand is crucial, no argument there. And you're right, PTC traffic "can" be profitable.

    @Targeted Visitors Daily - No hard feelings intended. Maybe I read your post wrong. Hell, I probably am overstressed. Sorry about flying off the deep end, I took offense and you probably didn't mean it. I apologize.
     
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    #9
    I was saying I'm too cheap to buy anything so I wont, which meant that I was just posting nice things about your ideas.
     
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    #10
    Article Marketing is very useful! We ourselves have hired a writer as well!
     
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    Ahh, gotcha. Thanks.

    I don't know what was wrong with me yesterday. For some reason I was thinking perfectly valid posts where being condescending. I apologize. Wish I could edit those replies, I feel pretty stupid right now.
     
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    #12
    You're not stupid! We all have days like that Scott!
     
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