Why Israel should keep provide Gaza fuel?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ohad, Apr 18, 2008.

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  1. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #121
    so do you accept that they have the right to resistance if they are under occupation? but you feel they are not under occupation because you have moved your settlements.
    am i correct in understanding your position ?
     
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  2. Ohad

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    #122
    you don't understand? Israel retreated from Gaza two years ago. Gaza isn't under occupation.
     
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    #123
    but what if they were under occupation? would their resistance be legal?
     
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    #124
    Taqiyya is in Shi'iti tradition, Gaza people and the Majority of Muslims are Sunni, both differ regarding the concept of Taqiyya, so I m not sure what this has to do with that, the concept itself is not as mentioned in anti-Islam sites, it has rules, and reasons, I can't find reliable, unbiased source about the concept since its not Sunni, so I will post wiki link, and there you can find more sources about the topic

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

    as for Kitman, you can read more about it here.
     
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  5. Ohad

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    #125
    what they are doing it's not resistance, it's terrorism.
     
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    #126
    What israel is doing is not defense, its Apartheid.
     
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  7. Ohad

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    #127
    liar.
    and this is not the topic.
    we are talking about Gaza.
     
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    #128
    I'm against the terrorists and their bombing and killing. I also believe that they should be hunted down. What's wrong with that?
     
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    #129
    do you think that palestanians have the right to resistance?
    please explain your logic
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #130
    Nothing wrong, I totally support your stance. Terrorists no matter what religion, what race, what nationality should be hunted down and brought to justice.


     
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    #131
    Living there for over 4 years, still nothing has changed.

    Cant we all grow up get along?


    Eye for a Eye tooth for a tooth hole world is toothless.
     
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    #132
    @ohad
    i am waiting for your answer
    do the palestanians have the right to armed resistance?
     
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    #133
    What exactly is the "right to armed resistance"? Is that in a Constitution somewhere?

    Why don't the Palestinians form a military, wear uniforms, and declare war on Israel?

    Because if you're claiming that Palestinians have a "right to armed resistance" which the utilize by blowing up civilians, I'd have to say nobody is born with that right.

    As a matter of fact, why don't you go exercise that imaginary right in whatever country you live in and see how the government treats you.
     
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    #134
    Do you think the Palestinians resisting illegal occupation of their own country are terrorists?
     
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    #135
    i do not support the use of violance in the resistance and i have suggested this in this tread. i think it is not only wrong but also counter productive.
    nevertheless it seems to be allowed under international laws. like french and nazi germany. did french had the right to resistance.
     
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    #136
    A better question is, how effective is armed resistance? In the event of the Palestinian/Israeli issue, it has been very ineffective for 6 decades.

    When something doesn't work for 60 years, a change in techniques is called for.
     
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    #137
    No.
    I will keep saying this:
    They started the war, they lost in the war, their problem.(Six Days war, 1967)
     
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    #138
    trying to figure out who started this conflict is like the chicken and egg question that can take us back over 6000 years. it is a waste of time. the point is that although you have won the war this does not give you the right to remove the civilian population of the area. and they do not think that the war is finished. they see it as they are continuing it and fighting you and killing you.
    if you think the only valid argument is the force then why do you blame them for trying to use force?
     
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    #139
    I don't have any problem that they will remain there.
    but if 70% of them voted for Hamas, which means 70% wants to destroy me, i do have a problem with them.
     
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    #140
    at the insistance of israel and US an election was heled . at the time both US and Israel insisted on inclusion of hamas in the election and refused to deal with fatah because their corruption so palestanians choose hamas.
    any way there is nothing unusuall for your enemies wanting you dead. this is the way war works.when two nation at war get tired of killing and being killed then they negotiate with their enemies to make peace. i do not understand why you think the israeli palestanian conflict should be any diffrent?
    as an example just look at northern ireland
     
    pizzaman, Apr 22, 2008 IP
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