Why Israel bombed a University?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by M5love, Dec 29, 2008.

  1. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #21
    The solution is very simple.

    If Israel dosen't want Hamas to fire rockets it should

    A. Stop starving Gaza to death
    B. Stop the occupation of what comes in and what comes out, and the port
    C. It shouldn't of violated the truce multiple times by the first time killing 6 Palestinians

    Besides, the rockets Hamas fired last week, KILLED NOBODY. Israel responds by killing over 300 and maiming over 1000 others.

    Also Israel has recently admitted this operation has been in plan for about 5 months.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #22

    Why on Earth would Israel allow Hamas to import more weapons and arms into Gaza when they refuse to honor peace deals already made, refuse to recognize the State of Israel, and are sworn to its destruction.

    You would not be happy until Israel is complicit in its own destruction.

    You know when Israel sealed the border, when the terrorist group Hamas seized Gaza in an act of thuggery, not statehood. Every country would do the same. No country would simply allow an enemy, sworn to its destruction, to arm itself at will.
     
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    #23
    Why is Hamas sworn to Israels destruction? Are you a Nakba Denier?
     
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    #24
    Really? Hamas has been attacking Israel like this since before 2001.

    What's your point? Besides the rockets last week that killed nobody (which isn't true, they just fired one today that hit a bus and killed people).... but besides that.... they've fired THOUSANDS at Israel in the past that have. Dude your point would make sense if Hamas hadn't been attacking Israel non stop for YEARS. Trying to point out that they happened to fail in their desire to kill people last week doesn't help your case at all...........

    That's actually good news isn't it? I mean had they just decided yesterday they're gonna go in and wipe out Hamas without carefully thinking this through, that would be a bad thing. No? Israel has been showing pretty darn good restraint. Hell 5 months, they could have done this any time during the past 5 years!

    Understand this key fact here. Hamas only exists because Israel has allowed it to for these past few years. That is as much a fact as the sky is blue. If Israel wanted to wipe them out, which would be fair because Hamas' charter dictates that Israel be wiped out, they could. Do you dispute that statement? Because if you do, then Hamas has nothing to be worried about right? ;)
     
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    #25
    Really? Israel has been attacking Palestinians sine early 1900's.
     
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    #26
    They've both been attacking each other.

    Stop being so one sided in your logic. It's intellectually dishonest at best.

    Israel isn't completely innocent in the overall war that has been going on and I'll gladly admit that. But in this situation we face today. They are defending themselves and have finally decided they've had enough of Hamas. In my opinion they both need to sit down and discuss this. But Hamas has literally stated their end goal is to destroy all Israelis. All the other "motivations" you pointed out are political cover meant to distract people who need some other reason to kill Israelis other than pure hate.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #27
    Because they are more concerned with killing Jews than in a Palestinian State.

    It is sad that many Muslims and Arabs see the Palestinians as pawns in their proxy war with Israel than as brothers. The Palestinians should have been living in a free state for decades already. Jordan and Egypt prove that Israel can and will reach peace with its neighbors - WHEN HAS HAMAS EVER OFFERED THE OPTION OF PEACE?
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #28
    I think what we're really dealing with here is a Chicken or the egg dilemma.
     
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    #29
    The day they came to power(as I can remember). Offer was made via US mediator (As I remember US college professor) directly to Bush and it that offer they even promissed to recognise Israel but offer was refused with usual "we don't talk to terrorists" answer. Please give me some time and I'll do my best to find article about it which was published in Haaretz.
    I wanted to start hread about it here but droped it because here I only got one insinuation after another about me personally and it's more than annoying. People can't have normal convo these days as I can see.
     
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    #30
    Do you honestly, deep down believe it is just about killing Jews?

    Not at all about the fact that they have been starved, bombed and humiliated on a daily basis, expelled from their homes, and live under occupation...mabye? :rolleyes:
     
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    #31
    Does Hamas still recognize Israel's right to exist?

    Or was that some silly notion they adopted 8 years ago and have since gone back to their same old same old?

    Kinda makes you wonder if they ever meant it at all huh? Hamas thinks they are on a mission from God through Islam to destroy Israel. You are a fool if you think for even a second they were willing to go against God just to have peace with Israel.
     
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    #33
    Oh, well that makes it OK then. :rolleyes:

    Israel should just lay down and accept whatever demands the people that want to wipe them off the face of the earth dictate to them. Either that or continue to watch their innocent civilians be killed by unguided missiles.

    (even though it is fully within their power to do something about it)
     
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    #34
    ^ You see, it goes both ways.
     
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    #35
    (since when is it Israel's stated mission to wipe the Palestines off the face of the earth?)

    I know you won't answer that, just like you ignore key points in all my other posts. So here's an easier one for you....... What would you like to see happen?
     
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    #36
    It's nothing to do with Islam, who mentioned it? I said Palestine, not Islam, stop being so foolish..there are loads of Palestinian Christians.
     
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    #37
    I corrected my post. It was a typo. Stop getting excited.

    Now.... What would you like to see happen?
     
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    #38
    What would i like to see happen is Israel to stop occupying the west bank and Gaza, give the right of return to the refugees (the right of return to the people they kicked out is something that Israel REALLY does not want) and have East Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital.

    Ultimately, the Palestinians as a collective group should decide on their future, nobody else

    Sound fair?
     
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    #39
    Its a fucked up world, damn it!
     
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    #40
    Maybe because terrorists used to hide over there?
     
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