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Why is Yahoo ignoring my website?

Discussion in 'Yahoo' started by zee, Jul 23, 2006.

  1. clasione

    clasione Notable Member

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    #21
    Hmmm, doesn't ring a bell unfortunetly...... I do however remembering them commenting about accurate page titles....
     
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  2. zee

    zee Banned

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  3. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #23
    You're having trouble seeing the issue???

    Look at your title, meta description and meta keywords

    then look at this word

    SPAM

    That is your problem in one easy to remember keyword term.

    Ohhh I forgot your alt image tags

    alt="Bad Credit Loans, Bad Credit Home Loans, Bad Credit Mortgage Refinance, Bad Credit Mortgage, Car Insurance, Bankruptcy Loans, Bad Credit Home Equity Loan, 0 APR Credit Card, Bad Credit Credit Cards"

    EL SPAMMO TOO!!!!

    Sheeeeeeeesh

    I am wondering where you learned to SEO??? (Must have been a darker shade of gray school)

    Good luck with that....you need it lol :D
     
    Sem-Advance, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  4. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #24
    Zee


    By the way ......

    do you want to sell that site???????

    let me know if you do....
     
    Sem-Advance, Jul 25, 2006 IP
  5. rw1000

    rw1000 Peon

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    #25
    Hello! I have this trouble too... My domain registered from 2000-2001, have 116 backlinks(google) and 380(MSN). But Yahoo is still ignored my site. Yahoo say's me that I havo 0 back links :( What can I do to get some backliks counted by Yahoo? From last google update it also count down my backlinks (only 60), but I have really many more! Why is SE don't count some links?
    my site is russian-women-1000.net
     
    rw1000, Jul 26, 2006 IP
  6. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #26

    Umm your trouble lies in your head tags

    <META NAME="revisit-after" CONTENT="7 days" />

    Why would you stop the bots from visitong everyday if they want???

    Mistake 1

    <META HTTP-EQUIV="Pragma" CONTENT="no-cache" />

    No cache means to not store the information

    Mistake 2

    <META HTTP-EQUIV="Cache-Control" CONTENT="no-cache" />

    Repeat of mistake 2 above

    Mistake 3

    That is why when you input your URL into Yahoo search engine you get the result below.


    We did not find results for "http://russian-women-1000.net".

    So therefore Yahoo cannot find links to your site because Yahoo cannot find your site.

    You're out if we were playing baseball or in Yahoo.com!

    Hope that helps clear up a few things.

    Peace
     
    Sem-Advance, Jul 26, 2006 IP
  7. KLB

    KLB Peon

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    #27
    No these tells web browsers not to cache a page and that the page should be reloaded each time the web browser goes to that page. This has nothing to do with robots. Robots care about the robots meta-tag <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX">.
     
    KLB, Jul 26, 2006 IP
  8. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #28
    I dont need to argue about it as I do know what the other tags do but I will be glad to enlighten you further to how this is also read by spiders.

    The Cache-Control general-header field is used to specify directives that MUST be obeyed by all caching mechanisms along the request/response chain. The directives specify behavior intended to prevent caches from adversely interfering with the request or response. These directives typically override the default caching algorithms. (For example the search spiders own algo)

    Cache directives are unidirectional in that the presence of a directive in a request does not imply that the same directive is to be given in the response.

    Now correct me if I am wrong (I'm not but I guess I could be) but is not each spider is a 'caching mechanism' ??

    Yes they are, otherwise we would not receive this from the search engines:

    Show Googles Cache of www.sem-advance.com

    some robots follow on page instructions... some don't..

    Seems Yahoo may be in the posters case.

    Better for him to remove and see if that helps than sit by and do nothing...

    Peace
     
    Sem-Advance, Jul 26, 2006 IP
  9. KLB

    KLB Peon

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    #29
    Caching is not the same as indexing. Would I personally use those directives? No I wouldn't, however, they aren't what is causing his problem.

    BTW, I have sent cache-control instructions with my pages for years but do it via server headers, not HTML headers. These cache-control instructions have had no impact on search engine bots being able to index my site.

    No not as is infered by those instructions. Again they are indexing, which is handled by a totally different set of instructions.

    Whether the search engines make a cached version of a page available to the user or not has no bearing on whether or not a page is indexed or how the page is indexed. BTW, the PROPER way to stop search engines from displaying cached pages in search results is using <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOARCHIVE">.

    All legitimate search engine spiders obey both the robots.txt file and the robots meta instructions. They should also be ignoring the caching instructions you are concerned about because they do not apply to them.

    I suspect the problems with the site in question are much more deep seated. As Sem-Advance pointed out the problem is probably the spammy nature of the site more than anything that is causing the indexing problems.
     
    KLB, Jul 26, 2006 IP
  10. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #30
    KLB

    Indexing is the robot reading the page

    Cache is a visual snap shot of the page.

    I know the differences. We will have to agree to disagree on what the directives do and whether or not spiders comply with instructions.

    ========================================================
    As for the main reason he is not in Yahoo, I will agree the spam tripwire was hit hard and probably the main reason the site is gone. ;)
     
    Sem-Advance, Jul 26, 2006 IP
  11. KLB

    KLB Peon

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    #31
    Agreed and this is why caching directives have no impact on search results. If they did, I would not be in any SERPs as I use the following server header directive on all of my pages via PHP:
    header("Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate");
    Code (markup):
    I don't know of any more definitive proof than the fact that I use the above directive and Yahoo has around 3,000 of my pages indexed. This isn't a matter of agreeing to disagree, I can show proof positive that the caching directive does not impact indexing.

    Yes this is a pretty clear cut case of spam filters being tripped.
     
    KLB, Jul 26, 2006 IP
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    #32
    What do you mean spam? I don't use any spam mechanism on the site - no caller or some others. As I know many dating sites are indexed by Yahoo :)
    So whats wrong with my?
     
    rw1000, Jul 28, 2006 IP
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    #33
    well yahoo sure is having some problems.... MSN and google seems pretty good..
     
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  14. zee

    zee Banned

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    #34
    MSN is also having problems. They are not updating their cache at all!
     
    zee, Jul 28, 2006 IP
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    TatiAnA Active Member

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    #35

    Yea, MSN have been frequently down the past frew days. But they are quick in indexing new pages (on my case).
     
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  16. zee

    zee Banned

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    #36
    SEM-Advance, I didn't learn SEO. I am a new bie. I am in the process of doing it. I know that I must be making mistakes and that's alright because that's how I am gona learn. I am here to learn SEO from guys like you :)

    So can you give me some tips on how to optimize the site? Can you give me some ideas?

    Thanks!
     
    zee, Jul 28, 2006 IP
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    #38
    Hi Zee

    Well first your alt image tags need to be adjusted. The top two or three on your page should be used at most.

    The remainder should say alt="image"

    As for what to use I would use one or two of your keyword terms from the page

    alt="bad credit home loans image"

    alt="bad credit loans image"

    The alt tag is for the visually impaired so no caps on the letters as the speach readers do no care. Since the images are read once for the page that would be enough for the user to determine the page theme and the user does not want to hear your keywords repeated over and over.


    Thats one tip!
     
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  19. zee

    zee Banned

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    #39
    I changed the alt tag right after I read your first post regarding my website. I changed it to "Bad Credit Loans and Bad Credit Home loans". I have only ONE image and that's of the logo so there aren't any other images to use the tag with. I am going to go and change it again. Thank you!

    Anything else? You are my best friend from now on :D:D:D ;)
     
    zee, Jul 29, 2006 IP
  20. Totte

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    #40
    I started a site 07-Jul-2006

    and now if i search for my keyword on google i have spot nr 1,

    if i search on MSN with same keyword i cant even find my page..

    if i use same keyword at yahoo i get spot nr 1 again..

    to see my site come up on MSN i need to use two words

    thats pretty good for a site that was started at 07-Jul-2006
     
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