Why is pagerank still important for people?

Discussion in 'Google' started by KingNomar, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. msolution

    msolution Well-Known Member

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    #61
    not neccessarily, my site got submitted when it PR 0!
    its about is your site worth getting listed, and abides by their TOS!

    M.
     
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  2. IEmailer.com

    IEmailer.com Well-Known Member

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    #62
    It's still a very important factor for ranking sites in google, while the most important factor is to get backlinks with your targeted anchor text then how about getting a backlink with your keyword as an anchor text from a high pagerank site and how about a related site even?
    think about it...
     
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  3. deathshadow

    deathshadow Acclaimed Member

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    #63
    Spot on - and to that I'd ammend... "and give me a page that sees 15,000 unique visits a day serving over 100 pages/1500 files per visit over any site that comes in at number one on the searches yet only sees 100 visits a day because the content is garbage and is only ranked so high because of SEO chicanery"

    Increasingly we're seeing people so obsessed with search optimization and SEO tom-foolery that they are sacrificing client retention on the altar of getting a top search ranking and unique hits. I suppose this is ok for sites that have crap content and only exist for the sole purpose of trying to get advertising revenue, but for those of us who have sites to market OUR OWN products or making sites for a specific company for THEIR products, things like page rank become completely meaningless, and often so do search rankings because if some crap site DOES pop up before yours, 99% of the time they are some click-through link-whore or worse, shit squatting search wrapper that eventually links to where? The actual manufacturers page.

    But then I have a bit different view on this stuff since my normal realm is corporate and product websites, and NEVER had a problem getting the pages I design into the number three slot or better on MSN and the number one slot on other services like Yahoo or Google.

    If you think about it, pagerank means Jack if nobody is actually clicking on those backlinks... and search rankings mean **** if you can't actually retain your clientelle. In fact, high pagerank with low search results can in some cases be an indication of something being WRONG with your page!

    What do I mean by that? If you have lots of backlinks it could be that nobody can find your site through the search engines in the first place or cannot find the desired pages in the site - you see this with certain computer hardware manufacturers who's site layouts are so convoluted, people just go to a forums and ask 'where the heck is _____ on their site'.
     
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  4. lukav5

    lukav5 Member

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    #64
    my website is ranked number 2 out of 200,000+ search results with a pr of 1... all the other pr's under my site are 3-4, it means nothing, otherwise i wouldn't b where i am
     
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  5. Zohaib

    Zohaib Guest

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    #65
    If Pagerank is useless according to your statement then why is www.google.com is having a pagerank of 10. If google thinks page rank is useless why it has given its own and many other websites a pr 10?
     
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  6. redigit

    redigit Peon

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    #66
    ~Matt Cutts

    http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-hell/

    Can we get over this whole PR doesn't matter thing now?

    I think for those of us running sites with over 50,000 pages, PR is one of the most important things.
     
    redigit, Apr 9, 2008 IP
  7. DeMerchant

    DeMerchant Peon

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    #67
    I agree that PR is useless excecpt for the matter of selling links... which lowers PR... quite a cycle... but it might be an indication of how much google likes your site... people can get a PR 3 with no efforts at backlink building... I personally care about not pissing off google and thus somewhat care about my PR...

    As for taking a PR2 with good rank over a PR8... that argument is a little flawed... I'd take the PR8 unless the keyword was pretty sweet and just sell links from my PR8 and probably make more money that way
     
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  8. priyakochin

    priyakochin Banned

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    #68
    PR is important because high PR sites crawl fast.The backlink from them with Anchor text will increase SERP.
     
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    #69
    PR is good for advertising companies that want to sell ads on your site
     
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  10. snowbird

    snowbird Notable Member

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    #70
    200,000 search results is not competitive at all. Try ranking, without PR, for a search term with 10 million results.
     
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  11. fadetoblack22

    fadetoblack22 Well-Known Member

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    #71
    If you have a higher PR website it will help you get more links to your site (people are more likely to do link exchanges with yout) so higher SERPs.
     
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    Spider-Man Banned

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    #72
    Yeah, link exchanges. :rolleyes:
     
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    #73
    This is a good point. If anything, PR is good for business!

    Exactly

    That's a good point. How many people who are new to websites and blogs end up in DP? When trying to do any type of trade based work here, people ask about their Page Rank. THEN THEY END UP GETTING THAT TOOL BAR!

    In short. It's important if you are dealing with other webmasters. I think that's probably about as important as PR is going to get.
     
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  14. KingNomar

    KingNomar Well-Known Member

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    #74
    200,000 results is very small though , but you are right :)
     
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  15. KingNomar

    KingNomar Well-Known Member

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    #75
    oh man, what have i started :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  16. Jim4767

    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #76
    If that is the case, then that's very generous of Google to spend all those millions on software engineers, algorithms, and the extra needed computing resources to provide us this PR "entertainment". :D

    I learned over 40 years ago in business school — follow the money trail! You learn a lot about what others (insert "Google" here) think is important by watching where they invest their money.
     
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  17. KingNomar

    KingNomar Well-Known Member

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    #77
    Totally agree with you Jim! Good words
     
    KingNomar, Apr 10, 2008 IP