Hey guys, I am the owner of free web directory.us and recently (approx. 3 days ago) the pagerank dropped from 6 to 5 although the traffic increased considerably since 3 months ago. So, I think PageRank is a factor to consider only when buying or selling links... My opinion, the relevance of a page is not given by its PageRank but by the quality of the visitors that come to that page and, sometimes by its design. Am I missing something?
No, you're not missing anything - PageRank isn't the be all and end all of a successful website. PR is a tool for polishing webmaster's egos and inflating their link prices!
A lot of them here. There are quality directories that have low PR and there are the reverse of that. Matter of fact I refunded 2 submitions today since I can't list the site.
Totally agree, the most important thing for me when looking at advertising oppertunities is the quality of the site rather than the PR. I'd rather have better qualified visitors than dubious links.
I think that using PR criteria, Google poisons the Internet rather than encouraging quality but doesn't care about it anyway.
What you're failing to realize is that there is also a medium to be met in between, in that, who and/or what is the site leaning towards. Is the site geared for web masters and PR? Is the site geared towards End user searchability? PR is more than just an ego booster, so all in all, and in the end, PR is indeed a part of the algo and helps reflects SERPs and position. Remember though, there are always three sides to look at when PR is involved. your view, the consensus, and gaygle results my .02 of PR though, pfffffft i want traffic, not PR.
That is why jeff from aviva and john scott of v7n is encouraging people to base the criteria in page strength and quality sites listed not in PR. You will see that v7n directory doesnt have a lot of listings but it sure does have both PR and PS because of the quality sites it list. I may have 600 listings but its ok. I try to make it quality to the best of my ability. A 2 month old directory with a PS of 4. Let quality speaks.
I personnaly don't think Google, inc knows what the fuck it's doing. It's playing with our heads and they are making $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ out of it. We speak and we try to manipulate the "G" sytem, the truth is it's common sense that works. Quality. I think quality has nothing todo with getting PR's. wwws.org is nothing but quality and yet it has been stuck and punished with the same PR status for almost a freaking year, while a domain being up for a little over a month gets a PR 6 or an average of PR 4's. AMAZING!!! Google rewards and punishes in random, do you really think it's algo really works? I don't think so.
Nope sounds about right... but many times also the way you promote and cunduct yourself is all the difference between making sales. Just my 2 cents for whats its worth. WWW Dam bro your out of control "but on a serious note" I have say that in a nutshell you are correct. I have watched many tumble this PR update.. and some of these directories should have been easy PR6 but got lesser while a site that has nothing of value to Really offer and less then a few weeks old get a really good PR. What do i think will happen this NEXT update? Well those high PR will drop for those new sites that should have never been given... I suggest they sell links real fast as that PR wont be going up but down. or that they dump those directories for a fast sell $$$,or build those directories backlinks with nothing but high PR links pointing to them to save what PR they have. thx malcolm
PR is like an advertising tool. It's good for buying or selling links. But generally speaking, higher PR sites usually have more power to pass PR points, as well as get ranked higher in SERPs. If your site lost PR, then you may lose your SERP position. To run a web directory and lose its PR, it can hurt. If its another web site, it probably won't hurt much. It is possible for your site to stay high at SERPs though if you gained good backlinks and lost only junk backlinks before the update.
Sure, I built free web directory as a site geared towards end user searchability and usability and NOT for PR. You know, guys, I'm really happy seeing that I'm not the only who followes the quality criteria and not the PR criteria and I remain to my idea: PR is only good for making money but nothing more than that.
Hmm... yes, sure tey know what they are doing but like Made for Adsense websites, which they support in their system, it's only a financial advantage for them. Thank you guys for all your opinions here. That really helped me make a general idea.
Pagerank is just used to hypnotize webmasters and to create a public paranoia, what you have to worry about are any penalties. If your site still receives high traffic, then relax Google still likes you. Google also has applied a slight driop to PR to all sites. Few of my sites with weaker PR5 dropped to 4, unless that PR5 WAS STRONG THEN IT STAYED AS 5. Few drops by 1 in PR i have noticed, were PayPal, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer (10 to 9), aviva directory (7 to 6) so don't worry so much, as you see you move along with the greatest ..
isn't that worth a lot? everyone says toolbar pr is nothing to be concerned about but everyone still wants good toolbar pr. that in itself is worth something!
Eh, fortunatelly, no penalties. Other search engines like me more than Google anyway For example, good dealing with Yahoo and MSN and specially good traffic from Yahoo