Why India dont take hard decisions against pakistan ???

A reason might be the escalation of conflict. Each country will response with harder measures.

In the end since the countries are next to each other, they will both lose.

 

You and I both know that is not going to happen. And its not my opinion. Kashmiris has stated their opinion. In the last poll there were about 70% votes casted. And the win party wasn't extremists or separatists. How do you think if majority of people do not want to be in India they would cast the votes?
Mate, all they want is peace and stability in J&K..

Uhhhhh... Is Pakistan ready to withdraw its control over POK.. Idont think so..

Neither India nor Pakistan is afraid of poll.. But both leadership know its not a feasible solution..

Neither Country is ready to obey the UN resolution so it out of the question..
You want to go on with UN resolution, feel free. But it didnt happen in last 60 years and it wont happen in next 600 years, as Idiot (What the heck of a user name. ) has stated above...

There only three solutions to end this matter.
1) let it keep going as it is now. Let our future generations to hate each other with countless war like situations. let the hatred spread..

2) Lets go on war and keep killing each other until both or one of us is finished..

3) Lets be realistic and make the LOC international border and let both govts. to work on the betterment of the region and people.

The Nation has already been divided not only once but twice, in 1947 and in 1971. So how it became an issue now?

 

Those statistics are not independent.
They sure want peace but at the cost of their freedom? if people of J&K are willing to live with India then for what India is keeping over 700,000 army troops other than police and para military forces ????

Pakistan has stated no. of times that they want the solution according to UN resolution...

Nah...its only India not ready for a poll.

Again, Pakistan is ready and have an official stand on this. its only India not agreeing on it.

I think being a civilized nations we need to solve our disputes in a civilized way....UN resolution is not in favor of any party but a peaceful solution of the dispute. I guess all civilized nations are expected to respect the UN resolution....

again why afraid to ask people of Kashmir. believe me, i am not the one who wants the status quo . I want peace in this region so that our children can live in a better place. And thats why i seriously think that every solution will be cosmetic if we bypass and press the people who are victim.

I knew you will bring up this statement. But thats another debate and i really don't want into this

 

Is this because a poll would create tension and possible extremist groups, and attempts of rigging?

Rob

 

you seriously think all those were legit votes? lol ..

you know what, when Saddam was in power he used to have similar dummy elections .. according to statistics his govt. provided there was 99.9% turnover and 100% voters said they want him as president lol ..

Another example is when Gen. Mush held a referendum that if people want him president or not.

The election commission claimed a turnover of about 75% - well above the 38% reported in the parliamentary elections of 1999 - with almost 98% of voters favouring the general.

Do you think it was true? lol ..

The Webmaster, get real .. no one is going to agree with 70% turnover and bla bla of Indian govt. not even a 12 years old child.

As ever, I would say again that Indian govt. is not going to fulfill the resolution their great leader Jawahar Lal Nehru agreed upon in US

Reason? The only reason is they are very well aware of what results poll will have.
Its the wickedness of Jawahar Lal Nehru, all he wanted is time to establish stronger position in J&K. He was never willing to held the poll as well, he agreed just because he knew that India will loose whole Kashmir if war doesn't stops.

The Webmaster, Please at least be open .. and admit what is truth.

Also, you cannot say that both leaderships don't think US resolution is the solution.
Leadership of Pakistan still thinks its the best solution, and what Indian leadership thinks .. no need to mention. Everyone knows.

ps. damn i really decided i wont jump in to this idiotic debate again, but some of your comments grabs me without my intentions

 

Too many reasons behind that, the poll will invoke the violence for sure.
There are some separatists are active in J&K. In April last year just after the by-elections there was a wave of violence in there.

Separatists do not want peace in J&K because its violence thats bring them bread and butter.

hufff... You can keep blabing about UN resolution for rest of your life..
I told you earlier neither of countries is going to obey it fully, not your dear Pakistan not my dear India..

It didnt happen and it will not happen period. You want to keep blabing about it, keep doing it.

Eventually LOC will be made an International Border. Pakistan will forget about J&K. India never bothered about POK. So called Azad Kashmir will no longer be Azad(As it never been) but an official part of Pakistan as J&K is the part of India.

The issue will be resolved but you'll find yourself complaining and whining about the issue right here....

 

If you want to debate on that I'm ready to debate.
But it will lead into mud slinging and history digging, that I do not want to do.
It's a fact that both countries know they wont have a hand on the other part.
The only peaceful solution that is there, is make LOC the international border. Nothing more nothing less.

We have been debating what India wants, What Pakistan wants for last 60 years without any avail. Its time to give it a break and work on a mutually accepted peaceful midway solution..
Thats what I think and thats all I have to say.. If anyone still wants to continue 60 year old useless argument about UN resolution and US solution, I cant help it and it wont help anyone either.

That DIDNT happen, and it WONT happen.

 

Why dont we stop talking abt it?

 

I think I need to sign an agreement with The Webmaster that we will stop debating on this issue.
Its extremely useless.

lolz

 

yes if pakistan acted the way it did with india,,,with china, usa, uk, middleeast, japan, korea or australia...it would have been to a big war already...

india is too nice in history and now..its their downfall

 

Because, its a discussion....a debate..

Lol.. When? where?

Without any doubt, it is.

I just hope that these extremely asshole politicians gather enough courage to announce LOC as international border.

 

Right now, here. lol

People man, people. Any politician will be gone just for thinking about it, let alone doing it. No politician on both sides is strong enough to take this decision.

You know how emotional people are on both sides, they cannot even bear loss of a cricket match .. how do you think they will bear this defeat? I think I don't need to mention people on both sides will think they lost Kashmir lol.

So, passing time is what politicians are doing .. when our generation will get old, new youth will be here .. they won't give a shit what happens on Kashmir .. and trust my prediction, LOC will be the international border. But we have to wait for sometime.

 

Okay.. done. Bring the witnesses please..

Quite agree.. lol
Cricket is like a war between both nations.. I still remember Eden Garden test match where they had to evacuate the entire stadium in order to keep the match going. It really pissed me off, I was like Duhh, come on its just a game.

Man ohh man Shoaib Akhtar was breathing Fire in that game. It was quite fascinating watching him bowl. The balls where he claimed Dravid and then Sachin were awsome swings.

Well, I think It wont take that long.. Our Puppet PM has given hints that India is (now) ready to accept LOC as international border (At Last)..
Let's see what takes turn when Pakistan is Politically stable..

 

Because the indain government is much smarter than before.,they took hard decisions before,but it was not work,mate.

 

The money spend on this is huge. If the problem was solved then both countries could have spend that money for lifting up the poor people of the country. But as far as i think this problem will remain for long time, politicians need some issue to come into power, they need something from which they can make big profits... Most People of India & Pakistan doesn't have any hatred towards each other, its just few politicians and fanatics that are in the scene.