No one, as it is an illogical presumption that the Creator needs a creator. Try reading up a bit more on the Kalaam cosmological argument. - MENJ
Because you think you know something others don't Your loving god is only letting 140,000 people in and everyone else gets to burn.
You hit the nail on the head! If the creator doesn't need to be created, then there doesn't need to be a creator at all.
Except thats illogical. Think about it, if time is merely a measurement, then all time is is a false perception by human beings of being a variable in our universe. Therefore leading you to conclude that time is ONLY a universal measurement, and that God has always existed, and there is no "past" to God.
But if you dont believe that, I guess you could believe something totally illogical like the Big Bang. Which will lead you into even more complicated theories and more questions. After I got done studying the Big Bang, it never told me where what came from what, and that came from that, or how it came from that. The discussion got so complicated and so far-fetched, even my teacher stopped believing in it.
Exactly. God didn't need to be created any more than the Big Bang needed to be created. The Big Bang is the God of science. QED
I am sorry you think this way Yoga (I am now calling you this because you don't seem to respond to Yo-Yo). But that is completely incorrect. How is it that you keep making these incorrect statements about what the Bible says? You make it well know that you are learned somewhat in Politics and Religion. You know the saying "action speaks louder than words"? Well, your "action" is overpowering your words. I have said many times in this category what the Bible says about this situation and it's like it does not go into your memory at all. Therefore, when the "words" come out from you it has no impact against your "action". If you go through your history on this thread and many other threads you can see a well formed pattern. That well formed patterns screams out "you don't listen". This is why you keep repeating the same rubbish and making ridiculous accusations about things you know nothing about. Have a good think about this and get back on track. What you are trying to prove is not making any sense at all. It's like "attack! attack!" in every utterance from your mouth (or keyboard). There ya go! My 2 cents! BTW. The number is 144,000 and not 140,000. See Revelation 7:4, 14:1, 14:3 Col
What bible would that be? Saying that christianity is a correct religion is incorrect as there are too many varations of what christians believe as being the true religion. By the way, nobody knows your answer until they die and even at that they may never know as it could be *poof* you no longer exist.
Yes! The hypocrisy of it all. That's why there is a distinct difference between Christianity & Christendom. I feel some questions coming on from the above statement.
Completely serious question... are you saying that only 144,000 people can go to heaven????? Surely that quota is reached already.
Now you understand why their little break-off of christianity isn't the most popular one. It's much harder than the standard "just accept jesus in your heart" stuff
Yeh.. i mean ... only the most brilliant minds on earth have researched the big bang for like 20 years now! It's so illogical all the fundamentalists can see right through it!
Well well! At last you got one thing right. Popularity is not something we have, but neither did Jesus. Remember they wanted to kill him and they did in the end. In fact, if we are being persecuted then we are doing things the right way. Most people in the world today do not want to subject themselves to God's authority for fear of ridicule and also for pride in themselves. These thngs were also foretold in the Bible. Col