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why has the google algorithm never been leaked?

Discussion in 'Google' started by disgust, Oct 10, 2006.

  1. hhheng

    hhheng Banned

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    #61
    Only the 2 founders designed their algorithm, so it's easy to keep it secret. The employees maybe just make some basic programming.
    SEMrush
     
    hhheng, Oct 11, 2006 IP
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  2. Phynder

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    #62
    Well, considering Standford University owns the original algorithm (Google licenses it FROM Standford) - I doubt that there is much of a secret anymore. Oh - that and the fact that it has a patent which discloses the basic procedure.
     
    Phynder, Oct 11, 2006 IP
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    Komodo Tale Peon

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    #63
    Remember, during the last media day Google quietly switched from saying 'over 100 ranking factors' to 'over 200 ranking factors.' It's an ever changing and growing formula.

    See what Rand sayz.
     
    Komodo Tale, Oct 12, 2006 IP
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    #64
    Looks like Rand makes precisely my point -

    If it was leaked it wouldn't be of any use to us
     
    MattUK, Oct 12, 2006 IP
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    #65
    maybe those algo changes very fast, so those who would try to decode it wont catch up
     
    mastermemei, Oct 12, 2006 IP
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    Link.ezer.com Peon

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    #66
    Agree with you...

    Believe it or not
    my PR predictor has been using 20+ smaller (my design) algorithms already

    So I believe Google they are using hundreds++ smaller algorithms
     
    Link.ezer.com, Oct 12, 2006 IP
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    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    #67
    Now we are making sense! It ain't just the algorithm, it is the volumes of data - and many other factors. There isn't "one" thing to leak.
     
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    #68
    It's not just that, but also even if we knew the exact formulas used to calulate rankings, we'd still have to do the things required. Knowing you have to get links from 10 authority sites to rank for your search term doesn't me you already have those 10.
     
    MattUK, Oct 12, 2006 IP
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    #69
    Like the secret formula of Coke...
     
    Cage Rattler, Oct 13, 2006 IP
  10. TatiAnA

    TatiAnA Active Member

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    #70
    yea, everybody around says google/Yahoo/MSN does this and that. But everything was based from speculations or maybe an opinion
     
    TatiAnA, Oct 16, 2006 IP
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    #71
    Haven't all search engine optimizers known the algorithm already?

    It's all about:

    Theme of backlinks
    Quantity of backlinks
    PageRank of backlinks
    Authorative backlinks
    Backlinks from different class-c IP
    Quantity of external links
    Page title
    Rewrited urls
    h1, h2 tags
    No javascript-made links
    Meta tags
    Keywords Repetition

    If the algorithm you referring to is PageRank, then it's also leaked. There're plenty of documents all over the net of how to calculate future PR, how your home page transfers PR to sub pages, and more importantly why PR is useless.
     
    brandnewx, Oct 16, 2006 IP
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    maney Active Member

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    #72
    Doesn't that tell you we don't know the whole picture and are missing a rather large chunk of it?
     
    maney, Oct 16, 2006 IP
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    #73
    the real question is how much are the various factors worth? ;)
     
    121603, Oct 16, 2006 IP
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    #74
    No it means that even though people know they have to get links from site's on the same subjuect, it doesn't mean that actually getting those links is easy.
     
    MattUK, Oct 16, 2006 IP
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    #75
    I would gladly pay anyone who could get the secrets of Google's algo a finders fee of $1M, plus an annual salary of $1M for every year they work for me at keeping the information up to date. I mean it too.
     
    Mook-Jon, Oct 26, 2006 IP
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    Send me half $million and I'll think about it. :D
     
    Cheap SEO Services, Oct 26, 2006 IP
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    #77
    What's your paypal?

    :rolleyes:
     
    Mook-Jon, Oct 26, 2006 IP
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    #78
    There is no specific algoritim. It constantly changes and consists of many smaller algos put together.

    The original PR equation was fairly simple and easy to manipulate-so google had to keep making adjustments to it in order to prevent spammers from gaming the system.
     
    IamNed, Oct 26, 2006 IP
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    #79
    So you're saying they don't keep it under lock and key under Sergey Brin's pillow? Damnit. Now I have the change my whole plan!
     
    Mook-Jon, Oct 26, 2006 IP
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    #80
    They probably erase everyone's memory each day when they leave work :D
     
    pctec, Oct 27, 2006 IP