Why Google's Algorithim is Faulty

Discussion in 'Google' started by koolkid, Oct 27, 2007.

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  2. DarkBrothers

    DarkBrothers Active Member

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    Whatever the reason is, Google PR has become highly ineffective as a site ranking tool. Time to find something else.
     
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  3. refined

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    #3
    johnchow to PR4...
     
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    Question is: What else is there?

    Alexa is largely crap (and even more easily gamed).
     
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  5. koolkid

    koolkid Peon

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    Theres Technorati and Techmeme - for blogs at least
     
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    cosmocentral Banned

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    Think they changed the algorithm. Rumor is they are manually checking the high PR sites. May be its true.
     
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    ForgottenCreature Notable Member

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    Their algorithm is fine. Google will always be the best search engine.
     
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    #8

    Update that old data. Let me tell you why some sites are penalised.

    1) Youtube is not PR 3, its PR 8. Check that again.

    2) On Washington Post, check out section in the right sidebar,

    They also have Sponsored Blogroll

    do you expect them not to be penalised for such open Text link selling?

    3) Forbes has some live links at the bottom. But a bit surprising to get penalised to link to high quality sites.

    4) statcounter code has been used on million of sites and it has a live link. They discounted all that and that's what they get in the end after discounting all their statistics code.

    Fair enuff? I hope you understand how it works.
     
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    simey Active Member

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    The REAL Page Rank .... is how the pages rank. Not stupid green pixels.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    The fact is that google does have many errors in the update, rather than focus on sites that have dropped look at sites that have gone up for no logical reason. Here on DP you can see people saying ... new site ... no links added .. now PR etc. I even have examples where sites have gained as much as pr4 when it it totally unjustifiable (eg should be pr1 or less).

    It is a fact that there are errors with the update. The big question is what percentage of inaccuracy exists for google to be able to accept the update as a success ... or do they need to make some more changes.

    I think the latter ... only time will tell.
     
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    Brett Gian Banned

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    Page rank going up and down its means google alogrithoms has fault?
     
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    gordano Active Member

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    Not quite correct:

    1 - Some webmasters use PR of a page to determine suitable link exchanges.
    2 - Some webmaster sell PR links
    3 - Some web surfers actually use PR to assess the importance of a page when searching for information.
    4 - PR is considered as one factor (there are many) within google's algo to determine SERPs.

    IMO the point 3 is of concern to Google, they don't want dissatisfied surfers, that means less revenue.
     
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  13. koolkid

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    YouTube was a PR3 - That has since been updated
     
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    I really doubt that many web surfers use PR to assess the importance of a site. Points 1 and 2 are the main reason why Google is tampering with PR; they don't want it to be used for that purpose. Point 4 is something that may be true, but Google can also decide whether or not their adjustments are going to impact the SERPs, so it doesn't have to have any effect if Google doesn't want it to.
     
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    And checkpr.org is giving statcounter as PR10?
     
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    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    PR is pointless, plain and simple ;)
     
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    I used to use pr to judge a site- especially if I was going to download some software.
     
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    I'm sure google have basis why this happens to other site. Hopefully google will release final statement on this issue.
     
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    the thread form Oct 27th 2007

    are you guys talking about old PR information
     
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    #20
    how is it faulty? based on what? PR? you think the average user that goes to these sites cares about PR?
     
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