why GOD created human?

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  1. Ahmad_Malik

    Ahmad_Malik Peon

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    #81
    Okay.
    I have studied science to great depths. And found it incomplete without a Creator.
    Furthermore, I found my Quran not only perfectly scientific, but also with irrefutable scientific miracles in it.

    There is a Creator. And the Quran is His revelation.
     
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    #82
    The basic elements were created from the energy released after the big bang. You'll have to read up on cosmology to understand it.

    And yes, logic implies that something created the universe. But does that mean someone's god did it? In my mind, no, because there's no evidence for it. To be honest, I think the notion is psychotic. How can someone possibly believe that their tiny understanding of the universe supercedes the awesome nature that scientists are uncovering every day? I ask that because that's what you imply when you explain away science by saying "God did it".

    More so, with billions of galaxies that have billions of stars how could we possibly be the only planet with life? The elements we have on earth aren't exclusive. Not to mention, astronomers are finding earth like planets all the time, yet people believe that some god created the universe just so we could worship a book written by men who were inspired by that god? I mean how unimaginative is that? It's like some poorly written high school paper on self importance. Completely uninspired.
     
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  3. Sheen91

    Sheen91 Banned

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    #83
    HE created us because HE loved us...

    ~Sheen91
     
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  4. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #84
    how can HE love something before HE creates it ?
     
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    #85
    we were created for Gods pleasure
     
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  6. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #86
    Why does god in need of pleasure ?
    Can god feel pleasure ?
    How does creating us humans, gives god pleasure ?
     
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  7. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #87
    i can tell you that yes, got has feelings, he loves he hates. for you last question.... How does creating our own little worldly toys give us pleasure.
     
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  8. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #88
    Interesting.
    So basically god can FEEL, which means he can be sad, as well as happy ?
    Meaning, he has emotions ? God can hate ? What reasons does he has to hate something or someone, as it was CREATED by him - and he is so called perfection ?

    Is this how you comprehend and imagine god ? a creator of everything, yet has the same flaws as us humans ?
     
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    #89
    Feelings are what causes evil. Feelings are what causes jealous. If god has feelings, he is no different than that angel that betrayed him, or whatever. Yet god punished him, meaning god is a hypocrite?

    I swear, do you guys even think about making sense. You say god can feel, but you've never even met god. Would me telling you right now "I can't feel anything. You can shoot me and i wouldn't die" make you believe me? Even if it were true, without meeting me and experimenting, you wouldn't know, right? So how can you believe into somethign that is clearly not there?
     
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  10. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #90
    God is flawless, im sorry you see having emotions as a human flaw, God hates evil, God did not create evil, evil comes from satan. Satan first tempted eve in the garden of eden, this is when man fell and was introduced to evil. You guys should really read up
     
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    #91
    DIdn't god create that angel that became satan or whater? doesn't that mean that god in fact IS flawed because he created an imperfection? same with humans.
     
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    #92
    Satan is not from the angels. Angels do not have free will. They are God's servants.
    Satan is from Jinns. Jinns and humans have free will and that is why both of them cause evil.
     
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    #93
    How can god be flawless, if he can HATE something, as you mention above ?
     
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    #94
    Who said hate was a flaw?
     
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    #95
    Men do not have free will acording to my belief, they are under control by the devil, Only those who God saves have free will, only then can we chose to do good or evil, if you are not saved you are trapped in the devils snare, to do his will.
     
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    #96
    IM pretty sure it was an angel.
    If im not mistaken one is Lucifer, the other is Satan.Both were banished because of somethign they. They were both angels. Therefore, god created angels that did wrong things, therefore, he is imperfect. end of story.
     
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    #97
    How can something FLAWLESS hate ? This means that this FLAWLESS creator CREATED something that he hates, and if we go by the definition of the word hate, then this means god is NOT flawless since he cannot erase what he hates.
    Why did god created something he HATES in the first place ? If he hates evil, why did he let evil be created ?
    And, why doesn't god erase evil, if he hates it ?
     
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    #98
    http://www.steliart.com/angelology_fallen_archangel.html

    Thats the link to the whole angel thing.

    One more thing, if angels dont' have free will, but are just god's servants, then doesn't that mean that god is a slave owner? doesn't it mean that he takes away from the freedom of those that care most about him, in a sense? Woudln't that mean that god is bad, explaining why satan decided to go against him?
     
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  19. simplyg123

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    #99
    you can twist the words around all you want your just going to get more and more confused, you want the answers...open your bible. If you dont have one give me your address and i will send you one, it has all then answers that matter
     
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  20. DevilHellz

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    #100
    I'd rather see you open your mind a little bit, and think for a change. Ask yourself the Why's and How's. It will only do good.
     
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